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- From: andrewt@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Taylor)
- Subject: Re: objective environment? (was Save the Planet)
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- Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 06:01:19 GMT
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- In article <726136614snx@tillage.DIALix.oz.au> gil@tillage.DIALix.oz.au (Gil Hardwick) writes:
- >Now, are biologists pursuing dynamic models as we anthropologists are
- >doing, ready to accept an idea that the relationship between a human
- >pig farmer and his pigs is far more substantial than that between pigs
- >and whales, that we might *reorder* the taxonomy?
-
- A species placement in the Linnaean taxonomy should be consistent with
- its evolutionary ancestry. If it is placed in a taxon then it should be more
- closely related to all members of this taxon than it is to any member of
- another taxon at the same rank. Taxa at each rank are chosen to comply with
- this restriction and to reflect a certain degree of similarity, depending
- on the rank, between the members.
-
- Placing pig-farmers and pigs together in a low level taxon would not only
- be inconsistent with their evolutionary ancestry, it would conflict with
- the intention of taxa containing similar species.
-
- >is the answer to make the taxonomic "hierarchy more and more complex, and so
- >more and more inaccessible to the laity out there?".
-
- What makes you think the taxonomic hierarchy is getting more complex?
-
- >Or perhaps finally abandon it in favour of more practical and reliable models
- >of reality which inform us in not too technical jargon about what is actually
- >happening in a particular local environment?
-
- Linnaean taxonomy does not yield information about ecosystems, for that
- you want ecology.
-
- Also I'd like you to cite examples of biologists holding human remains against
- the wishes of the kin. I can't see why a biologist would be interested in
- such material at all.
-
- I suggest strongly you do some reading about biology before posting more.
- Edward Wilson's "The Diversity of Life" would be a gentle start.
-
- Andrew Taylor
-