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- From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
- Subject: Re: Nuclear Power and Climate Change
- Message-ID: <1993Jan4.164054.4842@vexcel.com>
- Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
- References: <1992Dec30.174327.10706@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> <1992Dec30.182038.26674@vexcel.com> <1993Jan3.193353.6234@ke4zv.uucp>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:40:54 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan3.193353.6234@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec30.182038.26674@vexcel.com> dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska) writes:
- >>
- >>While it is not theoretically impossible to do both, they both cost
- >>money and such money does not grow on trees. Further, you ignore
- >>the part of the thread that discusses opportunity cost of
- >>investing in nuclear power. It is an inefficient use of money if
- >>the goal is to lessen CO2 emissions. The phrase above about
- >>"quite independent" means that the savings can be had without a
- >>switch to nuclear (or solar, etc.). In that sense, while it does
- >>not directly support the idea that a switch away from fossil fuels
- >>and an efficiency strategy are mutually exclusive, it does not
- >>contradict it. We can keep using fossil
- >>fuels and get the efficiency savings. A central point is that
- >>most studies of efficiency assume that money saved by not building
- >>new generating capacity will be used to fund the efficiency
- >>improvements. We may also want to move away from fossil fuels, but
- >>unless we can cough up the money for both, the most effective CO2
- >>mitigation strategy is to focus on efficiency for the immediate future.
- >
- >While it should be obvious that we should take all the "cheap"
- >efficiency steps we can, economic growth, and the coupling it
- >has with energy consumption, can't be ignored. Energy usage and
- >the GDP track quite well. We can argue which causes which, I think
- >some of both, but we can't argue that they don't go hand in hand. A
- >modest 1% a year demand growth swallows any feasible efficiency gains.
- >And, we must replace existing capacity as the plants wear out. These
- >costs *must* be included in any analysis. By 2050, *every* current
- >plant must be replaced. We can choose to do that with dirty fossil,
- >or clean nuclear, but we must do it. "Conservation" energy doesn't
- >negate the need for primary generation capacity.
- >
- >Gary
- >
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- There is plenty of evidence that economic growth and the growth in
- energy consumption need not be coupled as thet are now. Countries in
- Europe have done it, and the U.S. has even done it for short
- periods. I will try to post this evidence soon.
-
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