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- From: ketil@edb.tih.no (Ketil Albertsen,TIH)
- Subject: Re: HDTV Question
- Message-ID: <1993Jan12.110556.8688W@lumina.edb.tih.no>
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- In article <1is3e2INNrvq@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov
- (Scott Dorsey) writes:
-
- >>Of course, being digital in no way limits the number of available pitches.
- >
- >Bzzt, try again. Being digital does indeed limit the number of available
- >pitches. There is quite a variety of them, and certainly more than the ear
- >can pick out, but it's not continuous, since time is being quantized when
- >the sampling is taking place.
-
- Could you explain that so that a layman can understand it?
- I am willing to accept it, but incapable of arguing in favor of it. Now,
- this is how I am thinking:
-
- Imagine, say, a sine wave of 100 Hz exact as the only sound. That gives 441
- samples per full wave - the next maximum value comes 441 samples later than
- the previous one. Nyquist claims that (in theory) I can have a perfect
- reproduction of it.
-
- Now a 101 Hz sine wave: The next max value comes 445.41 samples later than
- the previous one. This sample does not exist, so the 445 one is "almost max",
- the 446 one is "almost max", but the 44,541 one *is* max, exactly at the
- right time. Nyquist claims that in theory, this is perfect reproducible.
-
- Now for a 100.01 Hz sine wave --- and the same thing again, leading to the
- sample 4,410,441 being exactly perfect, max value.
-
- And so on, down to any frequency precision that you want. And since an
- arbitrary complex sound pattern can be represented as a sum of sine waves,
- this logic holds for any sound, not only 100.0000??? Hz sine waves.
-
- For any given frequency, there will be a lot of samples that are displaced
- from the signal maximum along the time axis. But the sample value will be
- correspondingly off the maximum signal value, too. Whenever n*441/f is an
- integer value, the sample will be exactly max at exactly the right time,
- no matter the frequency. So the information *is* there, isn't it?
-
- I may be missing out something, but I don't know what!
-
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