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- From: lig@eskimo.com (Arthur Liggett)
- Subject: Re: HELP! Adding Battery Back-up
- Message-ID: <1993Jan11.061900.21811@eskimo.com>
- Organization: >>> Eskimo North (206)-FOR-EVER <<<
- References: <1993Jan7.160527.8155@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:19:00 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan7.160527.8155@ultb.isc.rit.edu> mxd7977@ultb.isc.rit.edu (ELECTRONIC MUSICIAN) writes:
- >I am trying to add battery backup to one of my sound modules, and I was
- >wondering just how difficult or more precisely what the best way is to
- >go about it. From what I understand, you locate all temporary memory
- >IC's disconnect the +5 from them, and then attach their power lines to a
- >circuit which switches between normal operating voltage during power up
- >situations and a 3.3 volt lithium during power down situations....is
- >this a correct assumption?
-
- The general idea is correct - there are some things to watch out for:
-
- - The memory IC's should be low power static devices, preferably CMOS (check
- the spec. sheet).
-
- - The IC's should be parts guaranteed to retain their memory at the
- battery voltage (~3 volts for lithium) (again, check the spec sheet).
-
- - The circuit must be configured so that the memory device outputs are
- tri-stated when the +5 volt power is off. Otherwise, you will run down
- the backup battery in a hurry as the memory(s) source current to the
- other circuitry through any outputs trying to drive high.
-
- - All of this may be of no use if the device software automatically clears
- memory on power-up, runs a memory test routine that destroys memory
- contents, etc. (Assuming you have microprocessor-based module.)
-
-
- > And if so what do you think the best
- >configuration is? Should I use a zener with a voltage comparator which
- >switches off the normal power and on the battery by way of diodes when
- >the voltage drops too low? Any insight would be much appreciated. I am
- >a computer engineer, but haven't had much exposure with battery backed
- >up ram systems (at least not at this level...)
- >
-
- Use a battery of lower voltage than the regular power supply. Feed the battery
- voltage and the +5 volts through separate diodes to the memory devices. Watch
- out for voltage drops through the diodes - Schottkeys work OK, but some have
- large reverse (leakage) currents, so check the spec sheets for the diodes to
- be sure. Germainium works too, but also check for leakage. Lithium batteries
- will work well as long as you use them every few weeks or so. The only caveat
- is if the circuit will be powered from the +5 for a long time (months), so there
- is no drain from the battery, some types of lithium cells exhibit 'voltage
- delay'. One of the electrodes oxidizes, and the battery doesn't put out full
- voltage for a few seconds after you start drawing power while the oxidation
- is absorbed. I don't think this is critical for your application, and the likely
- current drains, but has been a consideration with some equipment. Voltage delay,
- if any, should be specified on the battery spec sheet.
-
- >
- >Thanks,
- >E. M.
-
- Happy engineering!
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