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- From: whit@carson.u.washington.edu (John Whitmore)
- Newsgroups: sci.electronics
- Subject: Re: Microwave Oven Plasma Etcher? (definitions)
- Date: 7 Jan 1993 21:31:28 GMT
- Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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- Keywords: microwave, Reike and Hartree diagrams, Gerling Labs
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- In article <1993Jan7.005550.6869@kodak.kodak.com> ornitz@kodak.kodak.com (Barry x24904/ER/167B-TED) writes:
- >In article <rich.726361718@pencil> rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
- >(Rich Winkel) writes:
- >>Can anyone explain what a "Reike and Hartree diagram" is?
- >
- >A Rieke diagram is sort of a fancy Smith chart for representing how the load
- >impedance and its point of connection to the magnetron can affect the power
- >output of the tube and its frequency.
-
- In the context of the original question (lowering the power
- density in the microwave oven), this is irrelevant. First, the
- load is the contents of the microwave oven (and this can, we all know,
- vary quite a lot without stalling the oven). Second, we don't
- care about the exact frequency (nor the exact power); only large
- power-output changes are of interest.
- The load would only change markedly if the feed horn
- from the magnetron were altered.
-
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- >A Hartree diagram shows the theoretical minimum anode voltage at which operation
- >is possible in the various modes of the magnetron. Under operating conditions
- >the anode voltage must exceed the values given in the diagram.
-
- This is obviously of concern. I would have thought that the
- magnetron was just a diode, and that changing the input current (by
- substituting a smaller capacitor in the charge-pump power supply)
- would alter the output power. The implication here is that at too-low
- voltages the magnetron doesn't oscillate.
-
- Again, I think this is not prohibitive: magnetrons are more than
- 85% efficient, and this implies that the input voltage (which is
- unfiltered) is in the operating range for a substantial fraction of the
- whole 60-Hz duty cycle. That implies that the input voltage can vary
- by a factor of four or so before the magnetron stops oscillating.
-
- It might be impossible to get a 100:1 output power range, but
- 10:1 still looks reasonable. As long as the magnetron doesn't overheat
- from the current during the 'wasted' time, the microwave oven will
- still operate even if the magnetron has output efficiency of zero
- for most of the cycle. It just means that the output power drops
- to zero faster than proportionally to the input power.
-
- Think of it as reciprocity failure :->
-
- John Whitmore
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