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- From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
- Subject: Re: Smart kids (Was Re: Magnet schools)
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- References: <Jan09.011315.62346@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <C0Mvsy.ox@quake.sylmar.ca.us> <8411@lib.tmc.edu>
- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:03:14 GMT
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- In article <8411@lib.tmc.edu> laurie@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (Laurie Gelb) writes:
- >In article <C0Mvsy.ox@quake.sylmar.ca.us> brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K.
- >Yoder) questions why a kid with a high IQ needs athletics just for "balance:"
-
- >>>If the kid likes something other than academics, let him at it.
-
- >>I agree with that, but the point here is that schools need to encourage
- >>academic development, which is something that compared to the encouragement
- >>offered for athletic prowess is practically nothing.
-
- >Agreed, if a kid would rather read science books than play basketball, s/he
- >should be encouraged to pursue those interests. But a kid
- >who makes good grades, understands things others don't, etc. is often labeled
- >a "nerd" or "geek" not because s/he lacks a personality, but because the others
- >are jealous. Helping a kid to understand that attitude is crucial for survival
- >in, yes, the real world. That's the world where enlightenment is often feared,
- >where facts are often subordinate to emotions. If a kid with a high IQ is
- >going eventually to contribute to the improvement of that world (assuming you
- >care about human survival somewhat and would prefer to see intellect used
- >rather than hoarded like a toy), s/he has to understand it enough to find a
- >place in it. That implies the motivation to understand it. Parents either
- >provide that motivation or destroy it ("you're better than the rest of those
- >kids; don't worry about them").
-
- On the contrary, that kid is being destroyed by the current system. One
- does not develop one's mind by playing basketball. As an adult, one has
- considerable choice of one's associates, and the anti-intellectuals can
- have their dumbness.
-
- Those who go along with the crowd are very unlikely to contribute to the
- improvement of anything. What is needed is to encourage the idea that
- inquisitiveness, ingenuity, continual questioning, striving to understand
- instead of just learning to get A+, is needed. Not all can do that, but
- very few public schools even allow the children to do that. The word
- allow is not an overstatement; the schools teach pap.
-
- >Minds need to be nurtured, not isolated. Knowledge is useless in a vaccuum.
-
- >This is why my gifted child is no longer in private school. Some lessons
- >extend beyond what can be taught in a classroom.
-
- Very definitely so. With 99.99% of the classrooms teaching little, it is
- necessary to learn outside. But to acquire understanding of structure and
- concepts, not facts. To acquire the desire to excel, even if others will
- dislike you for it.
-
- It is the nerds and geeks who will make the contributions to knowledge, and
- advance mankind. The schools teach little beyond what computers will do in
- the future; that the great bulk of the people want to live like that is no
- reason to waste a mind.
-
- >Note that I do not advocate lowering one's intellectual standards in order
- >to accommodate the rest of the world, nor would I ever advocate my son's
- >doing so. That's why we *must* teach a gifted child how to have different
- >expectations for him/herself and for others.
-
- In order to have different expectations, it is necessary to accomplish
- what others cannot. You have lowered your child's intellectual level
- greatly. You may even have destroyed the ability to understand.
-
-
- >Uncle Sam wants YOU...
- >to pay your taxes, obey his laws, and keep your mouth shut.
-
- And anyone who does this is nothing more than a machine. We do not need
- a nation of machines.
- --
- Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
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