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- From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
- Subject: Re: Complete ITAR Available
- In-Reply-To: wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart +1-908-949-0705)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan12.143308.19697@nntp.hut.fi>
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- Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
- Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
- References: <1993Jan10.215609.3109@convex.com> <1993Jan11.003432.15501@netcom.com> <CKD.93Jan10211803@loiosh.eff.org> <1993Jan11.172918.1521@netcom.com> <WCS.93Jan12005718@rainier.ATT.COM>
- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:33:08 GMT
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- In article <WCS.93Jan12005718@rainier.ATT.COM>, wcs@anchor (Bill Stewart +1-908-949-0705) writes:
- >More precisely, RIPEM depends on having subroutines with the RSAREF interface
- >which implement RSAREF functionality - RIPEM itself could be exported,
- >and some of those sinister foreigners could reimplement RSAREF,
- >as long as they stick to the interfaces, and then we could probably use RIPEM
- >for cross-border mail (assuming key-certification issues can be resolved),
- >without having to export RSAREF itself (which violates the RSAREF licenses,
- >as well as inviting problems from the ITAR-vogons.)
-
- Here in Finland, I stumbled on something which looks very much like
- RIPEM+RSAREF. I haven't looked at the package more closely or
- untarred it, because of all the FUD about the issue,
-
- (by the way, I have seen posted that the author of RIPEM requests that
- RIPEM not be distributed outside USA - unless he changes his mind I
- think it might be a good idea to be polite and comply with the
- request)
-
- >Has anybody read the RSAREF license carefully enough to determine
- >whether the interface definitions can be distributed without license?
-
- but I guess that if the package indeed contains RSAREF it might be
- possible for me to examine the package and describe the interface on
- this newsgroups - I certainly do not intend to sign or comply to a
- license as described here so I don't think the license would be a
- problem.
-
- Also, depending on what the copyright status of the RSAREF code is, it
- might be perfectly OK for people outside USA to distribute and use the
- RSAREF code itself. Could someone clarify the copyright issue wrt
- RSAREF? The license seems to require commitment not to distribute
- RSAREF, but I guess that's irrelevant for people who have not signed
- the license. I don't know whether publishing something by ftp implies
- permission to further distribute (republish) the package, but if not
- and there's no notice saying permission for distribution is given then
- it probably wouldn't be OK to put RSAREF for ftp here.
-
- >If it's ok to distribute the interface, one could also contend that an
- >interface definition isn't software, it's just documentation.
-
- I can't think of any reason for me to not be able to publish
- information about the interface. The Finnish copyright law doesn't
- cover interfaces. Also, as I haven't signed any license I don't see
- what would prevent me from examining RSAREF. Any other thoughts?
-
- //Jyrki
-
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