home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Newsgroups: sci.crypt
- Path: sparky!uunet!shearson.com!snark!pmetzger
- From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger)
- Subject: Re: RIPEM and RSAREF available by anonymous ftp !!!
- Message-ID: <1993Jan7.203117.15682@shearson.com>
- Sender: news@shearson.com (News)
- Organization: Partnership for an America Free Drug
- References: <bontchev.726339031@fbihh> <C0GECK.2D@wimsey.bc.ca> <1993Jan7.043621.28202@netcom.com>
- Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:31:17 GMT
- Lines: 57
-
- strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
- >
- >Mark Henderson, writing from Canada, advises a Bulgarian National
- >writing from Germany on how to get the RSAREF and RIPEM files
- >without reading or agreeing to the license agreement.
- >
- >I think this is both a disgrace and a violation of ITAR. I would
- >not be surprised if it is also a violation of Canadian Law.
-
- Just one thing, David; in a very large fraction of the jurisdictions
- in the United States virtually any sort of sexual activity other than
- the missionary position engaged in by a married couple is against the
- law. Do you go about haranguing young couples you see on the street
- who aren't married (either heterosexual or homosexual) telling them
- that if they are having sex they are breaking the law and what they
- are doing is a disgrace?
-
- >Since I take this personally, given the efforts of many to provide a
- >free, usable, legal public key system for non-commercial use in the
- >U.S. I have copied Mark's message to the President of RSA, for what
- >action he may wish to take.
-
- Tell me, David, Do you go about finding married couples engaging in
- oral sex and turning them in to the cops? Do you go around turning
- gays in to the local District attorney? You honestly seem like the
- type.
-
- As you may have surmized by now, although you are a prudish bluenose,
- no one else here gives a damn about the ITARs. Any official of the US
- Government who actually believes that the ITARs serve to keep the "bad
- guys" from getting cryptography has to have taken more LSD in the
- hours before coming to that conclusion than Dr. Leary has taken in his
- lifetime. All the information needed to construct cryptosystems is
- available in the public domain and can be "exported" with an ordinary
- phone call, or even just by memorizing a few simple facts and crossing
- the border.
-
- Given the fact that the ITARs are next to useless, and that in
- fact there is no way whatsoever to stop the bad guys from getting
- cryptosystems (as has been demonstrated), most of us have long since
- chosen to regard the exportation of public information, regardless of
- the attitude of the US Government, in the same light as premarital sex
- or "sodomy", i.e., something we societally tolerate regardless of
- putative legality. You, of course, are the equivalent of the
- fundamentalist christian who harangues people even for having
- lascivious thoughts. Fine. Go off and preach to the walls. Leave the
- rest of us alone. You haven't a single supporter on this newsgroup.
- Obviously all your harangues have served to do nothing other than
- assure that you will never get a job at any company that anyone
- reading sci.crypt works for again. Now that you've successfully
- wrecked your own reputation, why not go off and bore some other
- people. We frankly no longer care.
-
- --
- Perry Metzger pmetzger@shearson.com
- --
- Laissez faire, laissez passer. Le monde va de lui meme.
-