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- From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
- Subject: Re: [legality of PGP etc.
- Message-ID: <1993Jan6.150338.9271@ulysses.att.com>
- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:03:38 GMT
- References: <22.2B4A0D74@purplet.demon.co.uk>
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- In article <22.2B4A0D74@purplet.demon.co.uk>, Owen.Lewis@purplet.demon.co.uk (Owen Lewis) writes:
- > Where the element of disclosure associated with a patent application
- > is permitted, it seems reasonable to assume that one of the following would
- > apply:
- > a. The matter is already sufficiently compromised so that a
- > patent application will not worsen the situation. If granted, the patent
- > may even allow an element of control no longer possible by other and more
- > thorough means. However, in particular circumstances, international patenting
- > might not be possible or at least seem the greater of two evils.
- > b. The matter is not considered sufficiently to affect
- > national security and, consequently, a would be patentee may be left to
- > pursue his commercial interest as best he sees fit.
-
- Umm -- two points. First, as I noted in an earlier post, governments
- are not monolithic entities. Just as there are folks at NSA (or GCHQ,
- or the KGB, or wherever) who like to read their own domestic traffic,
- there are also folks there who want to protect domestic traffic against
- their foreign counterparts. When NSA rules on a patent application,
- they have to balance those two competing needs.
-
- The second point is even more important. Your analysis implicitly
- assumes that suppressing an invention is somehow free. That's not at
- all the case. If the inventor choses to contest the secrecy order,
- either in the courts or in the media, NSA will get a lot of bad
- publicity. Read Bamford's discussion of the Davida case -- they felt
- very threatened. Here's what Bamford says:
-
- The bruises the Puzzle Palace had received in struggles over
- the DES, the Meyer letter, and the secrecy orders had taken
- their toll on both the Agency and its director. Inman believed
- the NSA had received a ``bum rap'' and was afraid the one-sided
- controversy was having a demoralizing effect throughout the
- Agency and that it would frighten away many promising
- recruits. Even worse, he told a closed-door meeting with
- employees in the Friedman Auditorium, some of the news stories
- were threatening to cause ``immediate damage'' to the Agency's
- sensitive ``sources and methods.''
-
- When making a secrecy decision, NSA also has to weigh the odds of a
- fight, and how bad a fight it's likely to be. Many large companies
- (including, I suspect, my employer) would not fight NSA on most
- cryptographic ideas because they value good relations with the
- government, and the profit from cryptography is generally low -- the
- market isn't that big, as yet. Universities, on the other hand, have
- much less to lose, and have a tradition of academic freedom to uphold.
- Similarly, small inventors may not have anything else to sell; if they
- can afford to, they'll fight as well. (N.B. As far as I know, there
- is no provision in U.S. law to keep the fact of the secrecy order
- secret. You're not barred from mentioning it, as opposed to the
- subject matter it covers. I'd be interested to hear of counter-examples.
- And of course, I'd expect that the situation could be different in
- different countries.)
-
- --Steve Bellovin
-