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- From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
- Subject: Bird of Prey kits Re: $$$
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- Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:55:32 GMT
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- In article <C0Cntw.yxn@austin.ibm.com> stand@austin.ibm.com () writes:
- >
- >The least expensive RC model airplane option I have seen is one based on
- >an article in RCM based on the "Combat Grimlin". This airplane is made
- >out of plastic down spout and a foam wing. The wing was reinforced using
- >strapping filiment tape. The model is a flying wing type, like a Polestar
- >or Simitar. I have built a couple and they fly exceptionally well and are
- >very forgiving. They go where you point them and groove. We have powered them
- >with everything from a 15 to 25SF. Mine have 20s in them. One of fliers at our
- >field who is been in training mode for too long was given the controls and he
- >flew it for several flights with no problem. Even though he can barely fly his
- >trainer 40.
- >
- >Based on this, myself and a couple of others started looking at how cheap we could
- >go with these. Would you believe $25 for a kit that includes every thing except
- >the tank, hinges and linkages! Of course you need a radio and engine too. It
- >goes together in about an evening, not counting drying time. Although my
- >versions all use the filament tape wing, the kits use a spar, as the savings
- >were not that great. And we pinch pennys, ie, use phillips head
- >screws instead
- >of hex to keep the cost down. Yes, all screws are included. Going as step
- >further
- >Nick, the chief designer of our project, built a prototype trainer. It is 3
- >channel; rudder, elevator and throttle. I uses no glue, except for
- >joining the
- >wings and the verticle and horizontal stab. The rudder and elevator are one
- >piece and bolt in the down spout. It too flys outstanding. It is very
- >soft on
- >the initial application of control, but if you throw in a lot it cranks around
- >very responsively. Just right for a novice. It's almost indistructable
- >as the wing is rubber banded. The trainer is of conventional design, uses a
- >longer section of down spout. Uses a 15 and flys forever on 4 oz, tank.
-
- Wow! Sounds like a Dox Generix of R/C type operation to me! The airplane
- seems to be a C/L Slow Combat plane in spirit if not in the details. Plastic
- covered foam does work well.
-
- Someone else might flame you for posting "commercial" information, but I
- for one would like to see more (a LOT more) of this. Our hobby (esp. the
- smaller disciplines like Control Line) are very dependant on cottage in-
- dustries. Unlike local hobby stores these garage operations often give
- you a lot of bang for the buck.
-
- >To further this effort we are experimenting with different covering materials.
- >My first one, Bird of Prey (because we use it to chase birds), was
- >covered with
- >MonoKote; very expensive, took better part of a roll. Next one is done
- >with high
- >gloss latex enamel, then clear polyurethane. Much better. Another one of our
- >experimenters didn't bother with the clear, no problem,
- >seems to be fuel proof.
- >There is yet another that is covered with a checkerboard shelf like material
- >found at Wallmart. EconoKote (sp?) is also used and is better than MonoKote
- >directly over foam as it takes less heat. If you really want to go
- >cheap, use a
- >felt tip pin and forget it; just wipe it down after you fly.
-
- Surprise! Latex house paint is fuelproof.
-
- No, don't fly it uncovered. The oil will eventually soak the airplane.
-
- I would suggest trying some Combat fliers' coverings: FasCal, Seal Lamin
- or my 1 mil Mylar (I'll sell you 10 feet for $5, 40 inches wide - you'll
- need 3M 77 or similar to use it).
-
- Ummm... try not to type more than 70 char/line 9-)
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