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- From: donald.wendel@yob.sccsi.com (Donald Wendel)
- Newsgroups: rec.autos.tech
- Subject: Re: AC Delco oil filters?
- Message-ID: <7181.196.uupcb@yob.sccsi.com>
- Date: 1 Jan 93 20:15:00 GMT
- Distribution: world
- Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569
- Reply-To: donald.wendel@yob.sccsi.com (Donald Wendel)
- Lines: 53
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- >>>Subject: Re: AC Delco oil filters? >>>Message-ID:
- <43559@gremlin.nrtc.northrop.com> >>>Date: 31 Dec 92 04:20:22 GMT
- >>>Sender: news@gremlin.nrtc.northrop.com >>>Reply-To:
- jslee@nrtc.nrtc.northrop.com (John Lee)
-
-
- >>>>
- >>>> I bought a PF13 because the K-Mart book had the wrong filter listed for
- >>>>my '90 LeBaron GT with the 3 liter V6 (they listed the same filter that
- >>>>4 uses). It looks like it will fit, it is the same size as the FRAM PH16
- >>>>that I ordinarily use, although the AC box says it crosses to FRAM PH396
-
- JL<>>>AC is the only filter I use, and that's on my GM, Toyota and Suzuki cars.
- >>>My friends use AC on their Jeep. FRAM is the one I stay away from.
- >>>They seem to be more cheaply built that AC-Delco ones. That's my opinion
- >>>after having used both.
-
- JL<>>>Filters as it turns out are quite interchangable, and I have seen the
- >>>same part number crossing problems you describe. For example, a AC
- >>>PF53 on the AC box will cross to a FRAM PH-xx, but on the PH-xx box,
- >>>the cross comes back to a PF54. Then GM changed the spec on the Geo
- >>>Tracker from PF54 to PF1245. So we have PF53==PF54==PF1245.
-
- ( rest deleted )
-
- One other thing to consider... If you do not use the number filter that
- the filter maker shows for the car they WILL NOT WARRANTY any failures
- that result from a filter problem...such as a tear or grove in the
- gasket that causes the car to loose all its oil...that has happened
- BTW...Standard oil change on a older Lincoln...no leaks when it left
- shop..10 miles away while on frwy customer observes thjat oil suddenly
- comes on..by the time he gets off the frwy the engine is making terrible
- noise...after phone call etc. we tow car to out shop and check it
- out...oil all underneath car but no sign of where from... fill engine
- with oil, start car and observe oil SQUIRTING between filter and block.
- Remove filter and find that it the gasket NEATLY CRACKED! Call filter
- manufacturer and they send a rep over. He checks car, takes the filter.
- 3 days later they ADMIT to a faulty gasket and pay for all necessary
- repairs. ( short block ) about $1500..Included with the papers of the
- settlement was a copy of there warranty...and it spelled out quite
- clearly that this type of incident is only covered when proper filter
- application is used.
- Soap box off!
- Don
-
-
- * SLMR 2.1a * I put spot remover on my dog....Spots gone!
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