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- From: higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey)
- Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
- Subject: LP convention 1991(was Re: SF fans show libertarian inclination)
- Date: 11 Jan 93 17:42:16 -0600
- Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
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- Message-ID: <1993Jan11.174216.1@fnalf.fnal.gov>
- References: <725750803snz@keris.demon.co.uk> <1i9mnnINNgvn@transfer.stratus.com>
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- In article <1i9mnnINNgvn@transfer.stratus.com>, jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann) writes:
- > In article <725750803snz@keris.demon.co.uk> chris@keris.demon.co.uk
- > (Chris Croughton) writes:
- >> Also, fandom in general tends to be a "live and let live" society -
- >> possibly because most of us are aware that by mundane standards
- >> we're
- >> non-normal, and we'd *better* be tolerant of each other or we won't
- >> have
- >> *anyone* who accepts us. There are, of course, exceptions...
- >
- > But of course live and let live is not all there is to
- > libertarianism. If that's all it was, a lot more of us would
- > probably fall into the category. Too much of libertarianism
- > is also "if they can't work, let them starve, but don't make
- > me spend my tax money on them."
-
- Wish I could remember who said this on the Net: "Libertarians believe
- it's okay to kill and eat the poor, as long as you pay a fair price
- for them."
-
- Reminds me of an exchange last winter (rummage, rummage... here it is...)
- when Jim Mann and James Nicoll were discussing more or less this same
- subject. I've added my own remarks.
-
- In article <915@transfer.stratus.com>, jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann) writes:
- > In article <1992Feb25.013416.21999@watdragon.waterloo.edu>
- > jdnicoll@watyew.uwaterloo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:
- JDN>> ([Ursula Le Guin's] failure to bow at the altar of the One True
- JDN>> Libertarian Way) no doubt will limit her success among certain
- JDN>> segments of the SF community...
- >
- JM> By the way, most SF writers are NOT libertarian. Thus, not bowing
- JM> to the "One True Libertarian Way" is not a reason authors get
- JM> criticized, either by other authors or by fans in general.
-
- In planning for the Worldcon in Chicago in 1991 (where Jim Mann,
- incidentally, performed reasonably heroic services on fandom's behalf)
- I learned that the Libertarian Party was holding its national
- convention the very same week in the very same town!
-
- Then I learned that this was not done by accident.
-
- In my opinion, a political party that schedules its national
- convention so delegates can conveniently attend the World Science
- Fiction Convention is not yet ready to be taken seriously on the
- American scene. (-:
-
- > (Yes, fandom
- > probably has a higher percentage of libertarians than society as
- > a whole, though the percentage is still small. I always thought
- > talking to libertarians at SF convenetions was a good way to
- > cure someone of libertarian tendencies.)
-
- Hey, it worked for me.
-
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