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- From: yee@mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee)
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- Subject: Re: Re: SF fans show libertarian inclination
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- Date: 6 Jan 93 18:27:07 GMT
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- In article <19000002@pollux.svale.hp.com>, dlow@pollux.svale.hp.com (Danny Low) writes:
- |> >(Jack Choquette)
- |> In either situation the Libertarian is providing no aid to the starving
- |> people.
-
- Not exactly. The point is the Libertarian is not forced to help others
- nor is he forcing others to help. The decision it help is a personal
- CHOICE not the result of coercion (sp).
-
- |> In the second quote the Libertarian is not stopping anyone
- |> else from helping the starving people but is still not helping them
- |> himself.
-
- No, he may choose to help or he may choose not to.
-
- |> A rather meaningless difference. All Libertarian responses
- |> I have ever seen to such a situation has always omitted any mention of
- |> what the Libertarian is doing about the situation. It's always
- |> don't make me do it.
-
- Quite true. The key point is that the FREEDOM to CHOOSE is maintained.
-
- Eventually, I will complete medical school and will be a practicing physician.
- If all goes well, it is my intent to volunteer my services offering primary
- care one afternoon a week. I will probably do so in a church in the Chinatown
- nearest to my place of residence. I CHOOSE to do this but will not be
- forced to do it.
-
- The benefits of my services is dependent upon an AGREEMENT between myself and
- those who receive them. I refuse to be coerced to do anything. If I set
- the price for my services way too high, then I will have fewer patients who
- agree to pay the price. I must decide whether I must lower my price or
- accept the fact that I will have fewer patients but it remains my choice.
-
- Could the choice of Chinatown to volunteer primary care be considered racist?
- Perhaps.
-
- Could my refusal to be forced be considered selfish? Perhaps.
-
- Are my choices wrong? No.
-
- |> This implies the Libertarian is doing nothing
- |> and relying on others to feed the starving so they will not loot
- |> his house looking for food.
-
- Not necessarily. The Libertarian may choose to help or may not. The choice
- is his- not imposed upon him by others.
-
- Also, the onus to getting fed belongs to the starving themselves not on
- others. The Declaration of Independence says, "Life, Liberty, and the
- pursuit of Happiness" not happiness itself.
-
- I personally do not see the logic of being forced to benefit others. If I
- work, I should see the benefit of the labor. To have anything else is
- slave labor.
-
- If I were a farmer and sweated for months to grow a bushel of wheat, the
- bushel of wheat is mine to do with. I may eat it, I may sell, I may give it
- away or I may burn it. I may make any choice that suits my fancy. I will
- not be forced to give it away. What has the poor starving done to merit
- my wheat? No one is automatically entitled to it; they must earn it.
-
- |> This makes the Libertarian a parasite
- |> relying on the good work of others to keep the peace.
-
- No. This makes the Libertarian a free man able to choose who he works for.
-
- |> Danny Low
- |> "Question Authority and the Authorities will question You"
- |> Valley of Hearts Deligh
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