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- From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
- Subject: Re: Dumb school administrators and parents
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- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:34:13 GMT
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- In article <C0pBLz.6M2@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> lamoran@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (L.A. Moran) writes:
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- .....................
-
- >Both of my children are heavily into sports and music and both of
- >them are very bright (grades 9 and 10). I'm certain that if they
- >dropped their extra-curricular activities they could bump up their
- >grades by a few percent (they are both A students already). In
- >theory I could interfere with their decisions and insist that
- >they devote all of their time to getting good grades but I won't
- >do this for three reasons;
-
- FORGET THE GRADES. Unless the school is very unusual, they are getting
- a garbage education. Even somewhat bright children are being totally
- shortchanged by the imbecilic curriculum now being taught.
-
- > 1. They are old enough to start making some of their own
- > choices and as long as these are reasonable choices
- > I think that they should be allowed that freedom in
- > spite of my personal biases. They both skip some of
- > their homework or do it very quickly.
-
- On this I agree. There is no point in doing homework unless it
- leads to learning, except in the rare cases where it is necessary
- to use it for grading. Spending time on homework just to spend
- time is stupid.
-
- But do they have any idea of the intellectual content they are missing?
- A reasonably good student is capable of learning many times what is now
- being taught in the schools without working very hard. Especially the
- basic conceptual material, which is even more submerged under memorization
- than in the past.
-
- > 2. I'm not convinced that getting good grades is the same as
- > learning. It makes no difference whether a student gets
- > 80% or 90% on a course at this level. In my experience
- > a bright student will learn and understand the required
- > material without difficulty - the effort required to
- > get a top grade may not be worth it.
-
- > 3. Sports and music are fundamental parts of education. If
- > a student shows any talent at these activities they
- > should pursue them as long as other aspects of education
- > do not suffer too much (this is probably true even if they
- > don't have a "talent"). Once they leave high school they
- > will probably never again have an opportunity to enjoy
- > these activities. Let's not deprive them of that pleasure.
-
- But they are being deprived of the pleasure of learning! Has it already
- gone to the point where they are no longer capable of the mental processes
- which they could do easily as small children? This is not facetious; the
- ability to think in terms of structure, almost totally absent in the current
- excuse for an educational system, and only recently "objectively" demonstrated
- as being present in the very young, IS beyond the capability of the great
- bulk of present school teachers.
- --
- Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
- Phone: (317)494-6054
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