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- From: stvjas@meteor.wisc.edu (Stephen Jascourt)
- Subject: Re: Magnet schools
- Message-ID: <1993Jan8.024823.20241@meteor.wisc.edu>
- Organization: University of Wisconsin, Meteorology and Space Science
- References: <1993Jan07.182300.7993@eng.umd.edu> <1993Jan7.200126.13933@wam.umd.edu>
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- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 02:48:23 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan7.200126.13933@wam.umd.edu> kckbxr@next16pg2.wam.umd.edu (Robin Hood) writes:
- >I didn't read the article, but your letter and the examples taken from the
- >article indicate magnet schools used in a post-high school setting.
- >There, I agree. In high schools, in my opinion, it's a different story.
- >In P.G. County, MD, there are a variety of magnet schools offerred. I
- >think that this is discriminatory at this age-level. I don't see the need
- >to concentrate on the magnet school programs on the hs-level when there
- >aren't enough funds to educate the general public properly. Many high
- >schools are limited as far as necessities are concerned (terribly old
- >books, limited amounts of copy paper, resources, teachers, etc.) to the
- >general public. I don't see how the Dept. of Education can justify
- >spending the general public's tax dollars on a few select individuals. If
- >these people want advanced education, then they should look for alternate
- >means to funding it, but not the PUBLIC education budget!
- >
- >bill
-
- The PG County magnet schools get no more money than any other non-magnet
- school in PG county (per pupil). At one time, the county had a single
- science & technology center magnet high school, Eleanor Roosevelt HS. Many
- outstanding, talented people from all over the county came to that school,
- even those who weren't interested in studying science and technology, because
- they were motivated to get a better education and be among their intellectual
- peers. Teachers with commutes of an hour each way chose to teach at that school
- rather than at schools in other counties whose schools had better reputations
- than PG public schools. The resulting mix of students and teachers was
- phenomenal, and the school excelled in all areas including band, track & cross
- country, and other things, and of course, in science & tech including in
- math and science competitions, AP courses with students getting 4's and 5's on
- the AP tests, etc., and everyone had a wonderful time working hard, meeting
- challenges. It was a real, living example of what Herman Rubin preaches all the
- time here-- grouping students by ability so the best aren't hindered. Yet,
- despite this special program, the county funded the school the same per pupil
- as other schools, no special budgetary allotments for any special equipment,
- etc. The school actually had two parts, the science and tech magnet part and a
- regular high school, and because of the presence of the science and tech
- center and it's influence on the rest of the school, people would try to get
- their kids to live in the geographic area bused to the regular part of the
- high school-- they would move or change who had custody of the kids or have
- the kids move in with aunts and uncles, anything to get them into Roosevelt HS.
- So the county always underestimated how many people would actually go there and
- inadvertantly underbudget the school. Thus we had a magnet school with the
- smallest per pupil funding in the county (in which it was the only magnet
- school).
-
- More recently, the county made a system whereby nearly every school is a
- magnet school for one subject area or another. As far as I can tell, the
- result has not had much effect on education quality -- Eleanor Roosevelt
- worked because it attracted the best of everybody, students and teachers,
- creating a special environment. It still does to some extent, as Roosevelt
- still has a large number of National Merit semifinalists and winners of
- the regional science fair and so on, and many of the big-name universities
- recruit there. And still, the science and tech center receives *no* special
- funding from the county, Bill's post notwithstanding.
-
- Stephen Jascourt stvjas@meteor.wisc.edu
-