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- Subject: FIRED ON A WHIM
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- {From THE WEEKLY, a Central Florida independent weekly tabloid,
- January 1, 1993}
-
- YOU CAN BE FIRED ON A WHIM
- by Pat Copeland
-
- You've just been fired for no apparent reason. You're shocked,
- angry, confused. How could this happen? Where can you turn for
- help?
-
- If you live in Florida or one of 20 other states where the
- doctrine of "at will" reigns, you may have little or no recorse.
-
- That is because "at will" usually means an employer can fire an
- employee without giving a reason.
-
- David Linesch, a Clearwater attorney who specializes in labor
- law, explains:
-
- "The common law is that employment is "at will." Obviously, it's
- at will for both parties--the employee and the employer. Either
- can terminate the relationship at any time, with or without
- cause.
-
- "Some states have modified the common law and said that you can't
- fire somebody if it violates a public policy," says Linesch, but
- Florida is not among those states.
-
- Linesch notes that Florida does recognize some exception to the
- "at will" principal." A lot of them mirror federal exceptions.
- There are certain prescribed reasons you cannot fire somebody--
- for race, sex, marital status, pregnancy, disability, age, filing
- a worker's comp claim, perceiving them to be affected with HIV or
- AIDS, etc.
-
- "At the same time, an employer can say, "I don't like the tie you
- picked out today, and because of that I'm going to fire you. It's
- very unfair, but that is no actionable (something that can be
- challenged in court) in Florida."
-
- Francisco Rivera, senior attorney for the Florida Department of
- Labor, says: "I hear complaints several times a week from people
- who are fired and given no reason, especially those that come
- from states where the "at will" doctrine has been revoked by
- statute. Sometimes they can't believe it.
-
- "Employment `at will' is the doctrine of the State of Florida and
- we have to respect it. Unless there is a change in the common
- law, it would be imporper for us to hold employers to a standard
- of not fireing people unless there's good cause.
-
- "The law is the law, and we're bound to follow the law. The
- legislature has the power to change it; it's up to them to act."
-
- There seems to be little legislative support or any real chance
- of that happening soon, says Central Florida lawmakers.
-
- State Rep. Alzo Reddick says that in his 10 years in Tallahassee,
- "no one has ever expressed to me a concern on this subject. None
- of the pople I represent have ever brought it to my attention."
-
- Fellow Rep. Tom Feeney, whose district covers west Orlando, says
- that's just fine with him. He views Florida's strong right-to-
- work laws as attractive to employers.
-
- "Changing the law to prevent any discrimination against people,
- like many ideas, sounds like a good one. But it's another
- situation where it will enrich lawyers. If anybody who gets
- dismissed from a job can run down to their local attorney, sue
- some employer for $1 million and win, then nuisance suits wil
- become common. Employers will not want to hire or fire new people
- and some jobs will be lost to other states," he says.
-
- Rich Tesch, president of Economic Development of Mid-Florida,
- says the subject seldom comes up among his organization's
- members, but that he thinks an important incentive for new
- companies moving here is their continuing ability to hire and
- fire at will.
-
- Central Florida employers also say they like the situation as it
- exists today. And although it can happen, both large and small
- corporations tend not to arbitrarily fire people without cause.
-
- "Firing is a very involved process and taken very seriously by
- us," says a spokesman for the American Automobile Association,
- one of Central Florida's largest employers.
-
- "Before that happens, employees have to get a chance to be better
- employees. A lot of documentation and a lot of cost is involved--
- regardless of what the law says---before that (firing) happens,"
- he says.
-
- Others, such as Bob Mandell, president of the Greater
- Construction Corporation -- Orlando-based homebuilding company
- that employs up to 50 people -- says it is rare for them to fire
- anyone.
-
- "But I do think it's only fair, if you run a business as best you
- can, that you are able to make judgements like that without
- reprisals," says Mandell.
-
- Rivera says, if a firing involves a case where there is a state
- or federal statute against discrimiation -- such as sexual
- harassment, safety, etc. -- his department can refer it to
- another appropriate agency, such as the Equal Opportunity
- Commission.
-
- But, "If someone called and said they were fired, and it doesn't
- deal with any of the areas that have been given to the
- department, the department does not get involved. As long as it's
- employment at will, there's nothing we can do."
-
- Linesch represents employees exclusively, "and one of the
- toughest jobs I have is explaining to people that not all unfair
- action by employers is actionable. There are a lot of people that
- are treated unfairly."
-
- "You wouldn't believe some of the cases. One thing I'm seeing a
- lot of lately is people who are fired right before their pension
- vests or right after they come down with a serious illness.
- Benefits are such a huge load of employer costs these days,
- roughly 50 percent or more, that employers are cutting people
- loose because they're going to charge a certain benefit account.
- But that's actionable under federal law.
-
- "Some states have imiplied a covenant of good faith and fair
- dealing," said Linesch. "That is, if you've got 20 years with a
- company, shouldn't there, because of that relationship and its
- length, be a covenant of good faith and fair dealing?"
-
- Linesch said, in order to address employees' rights, either
- legislation would have to be passed or more exceptions would have
- to be judicially recognized. "A lot of the employment at will is
- not legislative, it's judicial in nature."
-
- Linesch noted that private sector employees in the State of
- Florida "don't even have the right to see their personnel file.
- It's ludicrous. It (the "at will" doctrine) is archaic, and it's
- a deck that's stacked against employees."
-
- So what's your next step? You've been fired, and you have no
- legal recourse. Your termination has you completely stressed.
- Your blood pressure skyrockets; you can't sleep; you have chest
- pains. Your doctor prescribes tranquilizers. You consder a
- workman's compensation claim for psychological reasons.
-
- "Under Florida worker's compensation law, purely psychological
- damage has never been considered," points out John Fryback, a
- Bradenton attorney who specializes in worker's compensation law.
- "It's always been the rule in Florida that you need some sort of
- physical injury or contract to make a claim for related
- psychological or psychiatric damage.
-
- "The Florida courts have always been more conservative on this
- than California, for example. In California, you can make a claim
- for emotional stress on the job without any sort of physical
- injury. As a result, they've been flooded with stress claims of
- all sorts, and the proof on that is more difficult."
-
- Fryback pointed out that the Florida Supreme Court recently ruled
- on a claim of psychological damage in the case of the City of
- Holmes Beach vs. Mike Grace. In 1985, Grace then a Holmes Beach
- police officer, joined a struggle with an unarmed man during
- which the officer's gun discharged, killing the man. Grace
- maintained that he developed post-traumatic stress from the
- incident.
-
- At issue was whether an injury caused by fright or exceitement
- would be compensable -- in this case, the scuffle prior to the
- shooting. The court ruled that it was not, thus denying the
- officer's claim to compensation for his stress.
-
- Melvina Harrell of the dispute resolution unit of the state
- Division of Workman's Compensation notes: "Stress and strain
- (alone) are not compensable under the worker's comp law.
-
- "The injury has to be fairly prolonged and fairly prolonged and
- fairly serious. For example, people who have been in manual labor
- all their lives -- all of a sudden they're not able to work, and
- it is devastating to them mentally. They are deprived of their
- manhood. This type of problem, which is related to the worker's
- comp injury, does require psychiatric care. But minor injuries
- very rarely result in psychiatric care."
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