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- From: joe@jshark.inet-uk.co.uk (Joe Sharkey)
- Subject: Re: Copyleft vs Public Domain
- Organization: Independent Network (UK)
- Distribution: gnu
- Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:15:42 GMT
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- References: <9301090813.AA20380@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu>
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- In article <9301090813.AA20380@mole.gnu.ai.mit.edu> rms@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman) writes:
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- >freedom to redistribute and change it. That is not just speculation;
- >the examples of X Windows, TeX,
-
- The main difference I can see is that both Knuth (TeX) and Tanenbaum (Minix)
- put their reputations on the line...
-
- ``Minix is written by Andy Tanenbaum of Vrigte(?) Universiry...''
-
- Project GNU doesn't -- but the licence *still* seeks to protect your
- reputation!
-
- >The GPL also encourages companies which make improved versions to
- >return their improvements for inclusion in the standard version. If
- >not for this, GCC and Emacs would not be nearly as good as they are.
-
- I built EMACS in 1987 - didn't like it, haven't used it since.
-
- GCC: Several companies (Intel and OSF spring to mind) have provided "ports"
- over the years. How many provided new algorithms/optimisations?
-
- >That is not the philosophy of the GNU project, however. We are not
- >pacifists, and being passive and never saying "No" to anyone is not
- >our goal. Our aim is positive--to give the users the freedom to
- >cooperate, which is distinguished from the freedom to obstruct. That
- >has been the goal ever since the beginning.
-
- You want to change the way I work/get employment.
-
- F**king great! *You* do it from a "friendly" University -- over
- here, we don't have any. Maybe we need sofdtware tarrifs against
- zealots...
-
- >If we put our software in the public domain, then we would have a
- >great excuse to make. We could say, "Don't blame us if you have no
- >freedom to share and change this program--it was that other guy who
- >redistributed it with a nondisclosure license and no source." But we
- >want to succeed in giving users that freedom, not prepare excuses for
- >failure. We use the GPL because it succeeds.
-
- You still deny any responsibily for "fitness of purpose". What's the
- difference?
-
- joe.
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