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- Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
- Path: sparky!uunet!unislc!martin
- From: martin@unislc.uucp (Martin Cryer)
- Subject: Re: Shared Memory or DMA ethercards for UNIX on a PC
- References: <1993Jan6.201525.24636@nisc.psi.net> <C0GFw7.C7u@flatlin.ka.sub.org> <1993Jan7.143335.22910@microware.com>
- Message-ID: <1993Jan9.030434.21444@unislc.uucp>
- Reply-To: martin@unislc.UUCP (Martin Cryer,D1Z01,5754)
- Organization: Unisys, Salt Lake City
- Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 03:04:34 GMT
- Keywords: Ethernet Adapters
- Lines: 84
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- In article <1993Jan7.143335.22910@microware.com> adam@microware.com (Adam Goldberg) writes:
- >bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org (Christoph Badura) writes:
- >
- >>In <1993Jan6.201525.24636@nisc.psi.net> adams@nisc.psi.net (Mark Adams) writes:
- >>>I have a chance to purchase an ethernet adapter which supports
- >>>10BaseT and 10Base2 for about $100. Two models are available,
- >>>one uses 32k shared memory, the other DMA.
- >>>For a multitasking system, which would be a wiser choice?
- >
- >>The best choice would be a card that is supported with a driver by your
- >>UNIX. That said, I know of no ethernet card driver for UNIX that does
- >>DMA (if someone knows better please correct me).
- >
- >Furthermore:
- >
- > o DMA would likely be slower
-
- DMA via the system board, true, Bus Master DMA by a controller
- would probably be faster for anything other than really small
- packets.
-
- >
- > o If you do use DMA in addition with other DMA-using cards (ie,
- >SCSI cards like the Adaptec 1542), you may run into problems with
- >memory refresh. If you spend too much time doing DMA for other
- >purposes, you don't refresh RAM often enough (since the refresh uses
- >DMA as well). There are workarounds (at least for the Adaptec), but
- >they are not, well, optimal.
-
- Most "modern?" boards I doubt would still use DMA channel 0 to drive
- the refresh on memory. You should be safe on most i386 or i486 system
- boards, but it may be worth double checking with your system
- motherboard vendor to see if refresh is not done via DMA.
-
- >
- >--
- >Adam G.
- >adamg@microware.com, or ...!uunet!mcrware!adamg
- >The above is not to be construed in any way as the official or unofficial
- >statements of Microware, or any Microware employees.
-
- To be honest, the usual use of Ethernet in the UNIX world is for
- file transfer or remote logins. The former means taking data
- from disk one end and putting it down on the other. The latter means
- lots of small packets.
-
- I doubt whether you are usually going to saturate the Ethernet (especially
- if the protocol stacks are run in the main CPU) because the limiting
- factor will be the protocol stack or stream processing and the file
- system level file I/O bandwidth. (OK so small files will go memory to
- memory - buffer cache to buffer cache.....).
-
- As for rlogin and telnet, the small packet size will create is own loads,
- of which the controller performance is probably not the limiting factor.
-
- When it comes to NFS or RFS networked file systems, it may be more
- important, but even then, I doubt if the technology options you
- describe will be the predominant limit.
-
- Ethernet will still only run a theoretical 10Mbit/s even with the most expensive
- board...
-
- I have some 486 DX/33MHz and 486 DX-2/66MHz EISA PCs here running
- SVR4.0/MP using both a cheap 8 bit 3COM3c503 Etherlink II shared memory
- controller and a more complex UNISYS 32 bit i82596/PLX9020 EISA Bus Master
- controller.
-
- Even running NFS, ftp or rlogin, there is not that much advantage
- to be had of the 32 bit EISA board over the 8 bit ISA board. OK, if
- I load the systems heavily and were to be running TCP-A benchmarks then
- sure I could tell the difference, but for most network usage that I
- do I'm hard pushed to tell the difference.
-
- I would personally plum for the one with the best (most reliable) device
- driver, unless ultimate performance is the sole requirement.
-
- Martin Cryer
- SVR4.0/MP Development
- U6000 Architectures Group
- UNISYS Salt Lake City
-
- All opinions are my own and are not those of my employer.
-
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