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- From: vulture@imperial.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
- Subject: Re: How do you back up a terabyte?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan4.125908.28013@cc.ic.ac.uk>
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- References: <ericw.724459057@hobbes> <1992Dec16.161430.1109@cc.ic.ac.uk> <1992Dec31.174549.677@mav.com> <1993Jan2.165300.13971@siswat.hou.tx.us>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 12:59:08 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan2.165300.13971@siswat.hou.tx.us>, buck@siswat.hou.tx.us (Lester Buck) writes:
- - In article <1992Dec31.174549.677@mav.com> toddi@mav.com (Todd Inch) writes:
- - >>Because users may change files while they are being backed up, and you may
- - >>end up with an inconsistent copy on the tape - say a random access file is
- - >>keeping pointers to records at its end, and the data at the beginning.
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- Hey, that was me ...
-
- - >And likewise two separate files may be interdependant, such as detail
- - >and header records in a database, or a data file and its accompanying
- - >hashed-key file.
- -
- - Veritas sells a file system which supports creation of one file system
- - which is an atomic snapshot of another file system. The snapped
- - filesystem is then free to change, though writes to it are slowed
- - somewhat. The only problem is to quiesce the applications for a moment
- - while the snapshot is being made, maybe for a minute. The Veritas file
- - system is used in SVR4.2, I think.
-
- I fear the "perfect, reliable backup" can no longer be achieved, shutting
- down applications is not appropriate if they provide real time response.
- Making snapshots of a file system can dump all closed files and a previous
- version of open ones, or flag them as needing further attention. The
- usefulness of such a backup set is doubtful. It also does not address file
- interdependence.
-
- You should give up the notion that there is such a thing as a verifyably
- correct filesystem backup and go for a "reliable enough backup set". This
- of course means that all serious applications have to cope with corrupted
- information, just as filesystems (and backup procedures) try to cope with
- disk failures.
-
- Thomas
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