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- From: butrfeld@cs.tcd.ie (Andrew Butterfield)
- Subject: Re: Real Numbers vs. Rational Numbers?
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- Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:11:53 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan5.161955.11237@tom.rz.uni-passau.de>,
- boerncke@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de (Frank-Roland Boernke) wrote:
- >
- > So what does this mean in the end? When I introduced this subject, I asked,
- > whether a Turing Machine, that handles not only bits or naturals but also
- > real numbers is more powerful, than a turing machine, that only works
- > with natural numbers.
- >
- > My professor said, both types of Turing Machines are the same concerning
- > their power of computability. I claimed that can't be true, refering to
- > ideas like the ones mentioned in the quotes at the beginning of this side.
- >
- When you say "handles real numbers", do you mean that it can write real
- numbers
- into a single box on the tape ? If this is the case then your "R-Turing"
- machine is different to a classic one, which has a potentially infinite
- tape,
- but only a finite set of symbols that it can write on the tape.
-
- The R-Turing machine has an uncountably infinite set of symbols. It would
- also need an uncountably infinite transition function to exploit the power
- of its symbol set.
-
- A classic Turing machine can "handle" real numbers in the same way as any
- other computing devices, by working with finite approximations of those
- real numbers.
-