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- From: steve@hubcap.clemson.edu ("Steve" Stevenson)
- Subject: Re: Real Numbers vs. Rational Numbers?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan5.183318.15046@hubcap.clemson.edu>
- Organization: Clemson University
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- Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:33:18 GMT
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- boerncke@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de (Frank-Roland Boernke) writes:
-
- >So what does this mean in the end? When I introduced this subject, I asked,
- >whether a Turing Machine, that handles not only bits or naturals but also
- >real numbers is more powerful, than a turing machine, that only works
- >with natural numbers.
-
- >My professor said, both types of Turing Machines are the same concerning
- >their power of computability. I claimed that can't be true, refering to
- >ideas like the ones mentioned in the quotes at the beginning of this side.
-
- >Who is right?
-
- The Turing machine that puts a bit (1 or blank) in each square of its tape
- and can represent the digits of \pi in base 2 and then multiplies them
- does not terminate---your machine with its infinite capacity is different
- from the conventional definition. Ergo, the difference is fundamentally a
- philosophical difference. Hard core intuitionists would probably not accept
- your machine as valid; hard core formalists would not see anything wrong.
- This is an apples and oranges thing until you get some agreement on the
- rules of the game.
-
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