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- From: Greg Ferguson <rtmd30@email.sps.mot.com>
- Subject: Re: Software to shut down and startup a mac automatically
- Message-ID: <1993Jan5.193730.992@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
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- Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:37:30 GMT
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- With apologies to authors who's names have been deleted to save space...
-
- [stuff deleted]
-
- > >to run to turn it on? It would be *very* dangerous software with much
- juju
- > >which could startup a Mac which is off. I would be inclined to inspect
- my
- > >CPU with an axe if I saw my machine turn itself on.
- >
- > Perhaps THIS explains the demise of the Lisa and the Mac Portable...
- > (both had this capability-- the Lisa could turn back on after a
- > certain period of time, and the the Portable could wake up after a
- > certain period of time)
-
- (My thought is that they used the portable as a bludgeon to beat the Lisa
- to
- bits when it started up and the portable's battery was dead.)
-
- [stuff deleted]
-
- > >
- > >Also, PowerBook coupled with appropriate modem can wake from sleep to
- answer
- > >call...
- >
-
- [stuff deleted]
-
- > First, in response to the Powerbook comment, I don't think "sleep" is
- the
- > same thing as "off". If I remember correctly, "sleep" shuts down most of
- > the components to conserve power.
-
- The key word in the threads is "sleep".
-
- Was the Lisa (MacXL) actually asleep or "off"? It's been many years since
- I've
- even *seen* a Lisa so I don't remember much about them. But I think they
- were
- actually on all the time (just not thinking out loud) unless the ac cord
- was out
- of the wall.
-
- The other Macs (512, Plus, SE, LC) with hardware make/break on-off
- switches are
- *really* off.
-
- The Macs with keyboard on/off switches and powerbooks and portables are
- in what
- is more like a coma. All they're doing is watching for the keyboard
- switch/rear
- power switch unless the ac cord is pulled.
-
- The powerbooks when asleep are running at reduced speed with screen
- dimmed and
- drive spun-down. If the battery is too low the powerbook will actually
- turn off
- (become comatose).
-
- I think my general comments are correct, just details are off. My Mac
- compatibility chart doesn't have a field for asleep/off-on and Lisa's are
- off
- the chart.
-
- Anyway, my original comments about dangerous software with "much juju"
- relates
- especially to any Mac with a hardware on/off switch. Software which can
- activate
- a machine which I turned *off* is much too powerful/evil/twisted for me
- and
- should run on a machine with lots of people (drones) to support it...
- like a
- mainframe. Someplace like a computer room with false floors, dedicated
- A/C,
- power conditioning etc. where it can't hurt anyone. :-)
-
- The PowerKey was on the tip of my tongue, but I couldn't remember the
- name. That's
- probably the best answer.
-
- Regards,
-
- Greg
-
- gregf@shaman.sps.mot.com
- rtmd30@email.sps.mot.com
- =========================================================
- "Never trust a computer you can't throw out a window."
- -- Steve Wozniak
- =========================================================
-