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- From: lsr@taligent.com (Larry Rosenstein)
- Subject: Re: Stallman and friends
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- References: <D2150035.mrrnh5@outpost.SF-Bay.org> <lkka7mINNc6u@news.bbn.com> <MELLON.93Jan7172402@pepper.ncd.com>
- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:53:58 GMT
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- In article <MELLON.93Jan7172402@pepper.ncd.com>, mellon@ncd.com (Ted Lemon)
- wrote:
- >
- > Macsyma was developed at the MIT AI lab using government funding and
- > was commonly held by the programmers there to be in the public domain.
-
- I don't know any details, but "commonly held" to be in the public domain
- doesn't mean that it was in the public domain.
-
- > Then Symbolics negotiated a deal with MIT wherein MIT transferred the
- > copyright to Symbolics. MIT stopped making the code publically
-
- My understanding is that something in the public domain has no copyright to
- transfer. If the code did have a copyright then the copyright holder is
- allowed to transfer rights as s/he sees fit.
-
- That's not to say that the action was "right" but it doesn't sound illegal.
-
- > and I'm quite sure that this story is the root reason why the FSF is
- > so strongly against donating their code to the Public Domain with no
-
- At least some part of the reason is that by putting code in the public
- domain makes it possible for "software hoarders" to benefit. Licensing the
- code under the GPL encourages the production of more freely available
- software.
-
- > simply describe things as you experienced them, with the understanding
- > that I don't claim to be telling a terribly accurate history.)
-
- I don't have any direct experience with this, and I'm not a lawyer. But
- the story as you have told it raises some issues.
-
- >>mentioned. If you look at the sources for GCC and then write your own
- >>compiler using information contained there, the resulting code could fall
- >>under the GCC license agreement, depending on how close it is to the
- > That is so ridiculous that it really doesn't even dignify a response.
- > The FSF is totally against what you are describing, and it's in their
- > charter. If they were to make a claim on that basis, a competent
-
- The FSF code is copyrighted. If someone makes a copy of the GCC source,
- changes nothing, and tries to distribute it without complying with the GPL,
- then clearly that's violating the GPL. But what if you only take a few
- functions. Wouldn't that stil violate the GPL? What if you take those
- functions and mechanically change them without trying to understand the
- code and rewrite it?
-
- The question is how different does the code have to be before it does not
- fall under their copyright.
-
- Larry Rosenstein
- Taligent, Inc.
-
- lsr@taligent.com
-