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- From: ray@xrt.dfrf.nasa.gov (Jeff Ray)
- Subject: Re: Stallman and friends
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- Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 06:27:45 GMT
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- Competition improves the breed. (I, at least, take that as a given.)
-
- Where is the competition against gcc? What is the INCENTIVE for a
- commercial house to devote resources to producing a better compiler?
-
- Are we willing to take GNU as the new "religion", and accept a computer
- "world" where no dissenting voice, meaning no competition, will be
- permitted, since it would be economic suicide to compete?
-
- Lets say someone comes up with a way to make a compiler produce 10% faster
- code. Against a for-money competitor, I would expect to see that 10%
- faster compiler eventually reach market. Against GNU, I do not. (Since I
- am not so naive as to think that, being unable to make a buck off it, the
- developer of said process would donate the sweat of his brow to GNU. Some
- do, I know, but I have too realistic a view of humanity to expect that to
- be the norm. To paraphrase R. A. Heinlein, "Do not put you trust into a
- man's better nature; he may not have one. Appealing to his self-interest
- gives you more leverage.")
-
- Let me cast another analogy (ANALOGY, ok? Flame the concept, not the
- details.) I remember a time, not so long ago, when the clones of a certain
- computer architecture, selling for a bare commodity markup over
- manufacturing costs, killed off nearly all significant development within a
- fairly large slice of the small computer industry. I suggest that no
- significant development occured therein until a competitor arose to
- challenge the "architecture monopoly" in a way that was difficult to clone.
-
- I'm not trying to say one was better than the other. I'm trying to say
- both were improved because competition drove them to do so. So again I
- state: Where is the competition for gcc?
-
- Or does Richard Stallman believe that his nest of hackers are so good that
- gcc will always be the very best compiler in existance?
-
- Would the MacOS, or Windows, or the X GUIs be as good as they are without
- the others driving them on?
-
- (The Soviets tried a little experiment in low-cost, low-competition,
- supported-
- by-the-state economics. I don't seem to recall the consumer being the big
- beneficiary, with lots of high-quality, low-cost goods available to him.
- But then, what do I know? I'm just a cynic harping unfairly on a single
- data point. Everyone knows how much better China and Cuba and East Germany
- are doing...) (Smell that? That's sarcasm.)
-
- I have a question. Considering the anti-competitive ramifications of GNU's
- activities, why hasn't the Justice Department decided to join the fray?
- Last I heard, "dumping", the intentional "selling" of a product for less
- than the "legitimate" cost of development and production, was illegal. (I
- don't consider grant money to be income in the competitive sense.:
-
- But let it not be said that I'm beating unfairly on only one side of this
- little fray; allow me to fire off a salvo in the other direction...
-
- Knock off the whining that "Stallman is taking away my livelyhood". He is,
- but that is the nature of capitalism. Stop looking at Stallman as a
- socialist, and instead look at him as a very shrewd businessman. After
- all, Stallman's bills are getting paid, aren't they? He's getting paid by
- someone. What he's done is tip the playing field in an unexpected
- direction. Why don't some of you capitalistic software houses form a
- competing consortium(s)? Go to a few hardware manufacturers, preferably
- some of the ones supporting GNU, and make them an old-fashioned "better
- deal". For starters, try offering to develop for them a better compiler
- for less than they give to GNU. Try COMPETING with Stallman, on his own
- terms and his own turf, and let's see if you can deliver. Or is
- bellyaching the only thing you can produce now?
-
- Jeff Ray, Curmudgeon
-
- DISCLAIMER
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