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- From: rduta@nyx.cs.du.edu (Radu)
- Subject: Re: Sozobon (or other free C's): would this strategy work?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan7.175834.10583@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
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- Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
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- Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 17:58:34 GMT
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- quoting from neeri@iis.ethz.ch (Matthias Neeracher)
- "
- I don't think that's the reason. Lots of other hacker's tools have been ported,
- but gcc and emacs are just rather big programs and the Mac is not particularly
- UNIX compatible (gcc and emacs *are* available under A/UX, which sort of proves
- my point). Another reason against porting gcc is that there are already at
- least two powerful, well-integrated compilers around. I doubt that you could
- get gcc to compile even as fast as MPW C, let alone Think C, especially if you
- consider that gcc needs a separate assembly step. If you add the necessity of
- writing a decent user interface for a standalone compiler, I doubt that people
- will be willing to spend a lot of effort in writing the 3rd fastest and 3rdmost
- compatible C compiler for the Mac (If anybody *is* willing, though, I applaud
- his dedicationand he might get famous).
-
- > But I think a lot of people would benefit from a port,
- > given the large numbers of Mac users.
-
- My parents use Macs, too, but I doubt they would benefit from a port.
- Seriously, though, I think the target audience is not that big. gcc is too big
- for amateur programmers, too slow for many non-amateurs, and some programmers
- wouldn't like to use a standalone compiler (I want my MPW :-).
- "
- end quote!!!
-
-
-
- I take that whole post as a direct insult! Sure your parents might use a mac,
- but so do I, and i'm not by any means related to you. Just because you have
- the money to go ahead and buy MPW or Think C, doesn't mean that everyone can.
- I for one can't even come close to spitting out the $150 for Think C. I'm
- currently a student in colege so that could explain the lack of funds. On
- the other hand I'm using a Mac + which i bought for less that 200. So
- before i spend more money on a compiler than I spend for my comuter i'll
- much rather buy another computer.
-
- I hapen to agree with FSF drive against apple, I'm all for it, and i think they
- have a good reason for it as well. Apple has had the bad habbit of
- ripping people off since the bigining of time.
-
- recently i was debating buying a mac CI for 2000, noting how much prices
- came down, but then I saw a 486 66 for only 1000. Now lets face it, a 486
- 66 will cream a 68030 25. Put linux on it, and your set, not to mention
- that i'll have all the code that has ever been written for unix.
-
- I strongly feel that someone should write a port for GCC, something that
- is independant of MPW, or any other comertial product. I can't make it happen
- since I don't know enough, but i hope someone that knows enough can and will
- do it. Make it happen!
-
-
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