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- From: haley@husc11.harvard.edu (Elizabeth Haley)
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- Subject: Re: Stallman and friends
- Message-ID: <haley.726402086@husc.harvard.edu>
- Date: 7 Jan 93 10:21:26 GMT
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- alan@xserver.uts.amdahl.com (Alan Bomberger) writes:
-
- >Gosh I hate to step into a political argument but I thought
- >I was the only one who had trouble with FSF. They don't mind
- >making money on software (you pay FSF to develop software) but
- >they do make it impossible to distribute the cost of software
- >development (once FSF delivers the software you paid them to
- >develop you must give it away). This philosophy if followed
- >by others would certainly stop speculative software development.
-
- What stops you from advertising that software as a feature of your
- computer systems? I will always think highly of Harris Corp. cause
- they not only provided GNU emacs and a few other things, they provided
- a preprinted manual in a spiffy binder. And in just a few short
- months, it was one of my most important tools...
-
- >Why would I pay FSF (or anyone else with the same philosophy)
- >X thousand dollars to develop software and then have no way
- >to recover my costs? Because it is good for society? I have
- >heard these arguments before in other political and economic
- >discussions. Who is paying for development of GCC? Why?
-
- Everyone. Everyone should. that would make it very cheap to produce,
- and even cheaper to maintain...
-
- >Do you think there would be such excellent software in such
- >large volumes for the Mac (or any other system) if there were
- >no way for the developers of that software to make money? Semantec
- >would give away SAM? I must be a capitalist or something.
-
- If anyone ought to release their source code, it is Apple, as well as
- many of the other Mac Developers...
- I was never so shocked to see a magazine article say that a piece of
- software "Only crashed once"...
- This is an attitude brought on by the rush-it-to-market actions of the
- big software houses, who value timing more than quality...
-
-
- Look, I think everyone is blowing things way ought of proportion, to
- the point where I fully expect the guy who made the original post is
- going to start seeing GNU spies soon...
-
- Correct me if I am wrong, ye GNU Fans, but stallman was originally
- incensed that they were going to sell his editor, instead of following
- the practice of leaving it out for others too improve and learn
- from...
-
- It went from there.
-
- Sure, he has stated that he thought software development ought to be
- subsidied by the state, but the was just a suggestion...
-
- I believe the thing he objects to is Corporate Raiders with no
- knowledge of computers beyond how to use their spreadsheets making
- money off of the sweat of honest programmers, and honest programmers
- turning into Corporate greedheads...
-
- If you feel threatened by GNU, do what Cygnus did! (I tip my hat to
- Cygnus)
- Start your own GNU support group and charge largish fees for largish
- work. Make the software work better, and do something commercial with
- it, like keeping books for people, or making neat animations... But
- DAMMIT, work for your money!
-
- I can't believe people DARE to complain about GNU charging people for
- distribution and complaining that he threatens your jobs.
- If AT&T were seling that package, they'd charge $10,000 and you
- wouldn't get source code...
-
- And if Mac were doing it, the damn source code would be corrupt.!
-
- How that for religious fervor!
-
- --
- When life seems to be getting you down...
- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
- ======David Charles Todd, tHE mAN wITH tHREE fIRST nAMES======
- -------------------- David misses eBeth ----------------------
- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-hacksaw@headcheese.daa.uc.edu=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
- ...ask it why it is torturing geese
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- =------------------THE-AUTHOR-OF-THIS-SIGNATURE-IS-A-GERBIL!----------------=
- =The author of this letter is a fabulously intelligent person and is very =
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