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Info-Mac Digest             Mon,  4 Jan 93       Volume 11 : Issue 2

Today's Topics:

      [*] !
      [*] Comp.Sys.Mac.Programmer Digest Volume 1 #220-227
      [*] Connect Four 2.0
      [*] Function Keys 1.1
      [*] Ghostscriptbinary.sea.hqx
      [*] Ghostscriptsource.cpt.hqx
      [*] Macintosh-IBM PC Comparison report
      [*] PowerCentral1.3.cpt.hqx
      [*] Princess Bride Sounds--group 2
      [*] Save_Princeton.hqx
      [*] Send Script Extension to BBEdit
      [*] TE32K, TextEdit replacement package
      [*] The Macintosh Secret Trick List
      -1070 error
      Adjusting CPU load amongst applications
      Background Printing of PostScript files
      Backing Up to an AppleShare
      Converting CorelDraw files to Mac
      CTB Basic Conn Set 1.1.1 on ftp.apple.com
      Does new analog board = new fan?
      FM Pro and global field
      Font names listed in own font (A)
      Full Write Pro (C)
      Gameboy Kwirk(?)-like game for Mac?
      Hard Disk error (A)
      Help with Heart of China!
      HP 4m & TrueType fonts
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #1
      Keyboard shortcut wanted (A)
      Keyboard shortcut wanted (R)
      Keyboard shortcut wanted (thanks)
      Lemmings
      MAC executables via Apple File Exchange
      Macintosh Draw Programs With Direct Coordinate Editing?
      MacTools/Mirror
      Mac TV boards
      Maelstrom Easter Eggs
      Metamorphosis Is Not Like Morph
      Michel/Michele
      Opening Text files in Word
      Personal Lawyer type software
      Powerbook Duo 210 - New Observations
      Printers w/ 3 paper trays
      Prograph
      proliferating disk icons redux
      rot13 off-line decoder
      Scheduling Programs (A)
      Spooler for StyleWriter?
      StyleWriter Cartridges
      Symbolic Algebra Program wanted
      System 7.1/Font/Printing Question...
      System 7.1/Font/Printing Question... (again)
      Telephone for Dovefax (Q)
      Trash: no get info (A)
      UK readers: Seeking info-> Quidnunc company or Bespoke DB??
      Usage Recording Software
      VT320 emulators (A)
      Whatever happened to FullWrite? (R)
      Where did TidBITS go?

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 05:14:57 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Ramsey Dow)
Subject: [*] !

Here is a collection of colorful icons for System 7.  Included are a number
of folder icons as well as a collection of ResEdit documents which contain
icon families for a number of applications.  Enjoy!

[Archived as /info-mac/misc/live-icons.hqx; 72K]

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 12:55:59 -0800
From: "(Michael A. Kelly)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Comp.Sys.Mac.Programmer Digest Volume 1 #220-227

Issues #220 through #227 of Volume 1 of the Comp.Sys.Mac.Programmer Digest are
now available.

[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-index.txt; 63K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-220.txt; 49K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-221.txt; 43K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-222.txt; 34K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-223.txt; 35K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-224.txt; 43K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-225.txt; 74K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-226.txt; 34K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-227.txt; 41K]

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:57:25 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Connect Four 2.0

This is version 2.0 of Connect Four, a board game for one or
two persons. This new version has great new features, including
printing, better color support, cooler sounds, and as the best
part the possibility to play games on two different computers
over the AppleTalk network.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/connect-four-20.hqx; 97K]

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:58:00 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Function Keys 1.1

With this extension you can use function keys (NOT FKEYs!!!) on keyboards
without them. It is an update of the version posted December 31, it now
includes F11 to F15.

[Archived as /info-mac/ex/function-keys-11.hqx; 5K]

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 11:51:16 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Michael 'Job Hunt' Finch)
Subject: [*] Ghostscriptbinary.sea.hqx

GNU Ghostscript version 2.5.1
Supports preview, ps->PICT, ps->gif, ps->ppm, ps->pbm, and
printing.

This version has a UN*X style command interface, a mac style interface is
in the works.

Requires:  32 bit color quickdraw.
The fonts for ghostscript can be found on most FTP sites with the GNU
software.

-Mike

[Archived as /info-mac/util/ghostscript-251.hqx; 556K]

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 11:54:31 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail] (Michael 'Job Hunt' Finch)
Subject: [*] Ghostscriptsource.cpt.hqx

The source code to GNU gs 2.5.1 for the mac.

-Mike

[Archived as /info-mac/source/c/ghostscript-251.hqx; 988K]

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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 19:39 BST
From: Richard Lim <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Macintosh-IBM PC Comparison report

I'm submitting this report from comp.sys.mac.system on behalf of its
compiler, Bruce Grubb.  The report still isn't complete, and Bruce
([e-mail]) is therefore very much on the lookout for
contributions from Digest readers to flesh it out.  Even now, it still
makes for thought-provoking reading on that venerable area of controversy,
the relative merits and deficiencies of Macintoshes and IBM PCs.  Both
hardware and software statistics, features and possibilities are covered.
I'll quote Bruce's preamble and let you download the rest for yourself:

"The reason for this general data sheet is that people in both camps are
not clear or accurate about what they are saying about their machines. When
completed, this data sheet will, I hope, enable us to make convincing and
intelligent comparisons between Mac and IBM. To help keep this organized,
please provide, if possible, article citations for the information provided
or corrected.  Also keep it simple so I can understand what is being talked
about.
"Since this is a data sheet let's keep the opinions to a minimum.  Also,
give me the info to make it complete as opposed to just saying it is
incomplete, and keep the information relevant to the section corrected."

[Archived as /info-mac/report/mac-ibm-compare.txt; 28K]

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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 08:20:17 -0700
From: [e-mail] (John R. Park)
Subject: [*] PowerCentral1.3.cpt.hqx

Dear Info-mac:

Steve Tuttle of DayStar Digital ([e-mail])
tech support gave me permission to post this copy of Power Central,
the control panel which enables their line of PowerCache accelerators.
This is version 1.3.

John R Park ([e-mail])

[Archived as /info-mac/cp/power-central-13.hqx; 38K]

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Date: 01 Jan 1993 16:07:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: GREG HINSON <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Princess Bride Sounds--group 2

Here's more sounds sampled from the movie "Princess Bride."
Each are recorded in crisp, clear 22kHz and saved as System 7,
double-clickable sounds. Enjoy!
                    Greg Hinson
                    Medical College of Virginia

[Archived as /info-mac/sound/princess-bride-grp2.hqx; 560K]

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 02:33:32 -0500
From: Jacob Solomon Weinstein <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Save_Princeton.hqx

    Save Princeton is a text-adventure game set at Princeton University.
You don't need any special knowledge of Princeton to enjoy the game,
which pits the player against mysterious invaders who have taken over
campus. Save Princeton was created with TADS, and has a highly
intelligent parser. The game has a vocabulary of 981 rooms, and there
are 52 locations. This puts it at least on the level of the old Infocom
games in terms of depth.
    Save Princeton is shareware, with a fee of $10. It should work on
everything from  a Mac Plus on up, with any system greater than 6.0. It
will probably work on even older systems, but I can't make any
promises.
    I've put a year and a half of work into Save Princeton, and I'm
very proud of it. I hope you'll give it a try.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/save-princeton.hqx; 503K]

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 13:32:45 EST
From: [e-mail] (Ed Watkeys)
Subject: [*] Send Script Extension to BBEdit

Enclosed is a Stuffit 3.0.3 archive containing Send Script 1.0d5,
a BBEdit Extension. It allows you to send the contents of a BBEdit
document (a selection or the whole thing) to an Apple event-aware
application which understands the "do script" event (class 'misc',
id 'dosc').

This is public domain, but I'd appreciate it if you would send me
any changes you make so I can share them with anyone else who is
interested.

Ed Watkeys ([e-mail])

[Archived as /info-mac/app/bbedit-send-script-10d5.hqx; 10K]

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 11:14:40 -0500
From: Roy Wood <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] TE32K, TextEdit replacement package

Here's the TE32K package, a replacement for the standard TextEdit routines.
The major difference between TE32K and TextEdit is that TE32K allows for
manipulation of text records LARGER than 32K.

The package consists of C source code and minimal documentation.  Generally,
if you can use TextEdit, you already know how to use TE32K.  The package is
designed to be a drop-in replacement for TextEdit, so basically no changes
to your existing code are necessary.  (Liar! You have to change all your calls
>From TE routines to TE32K routines! Okay, but that's just a matter of a
global
search and replace-- the algorithmic stuff doesn't have to be changed)

TE32K is provided more-or-less free to everyone, though I ask that if you
use it in a piece of software you sell, then please donate $1 to the World
Wildlif Fund.

Bugs in the source are provided at no extra charge, of course :)

-Roy Wood ([e-mail])

[Archived as /info-mac/source/c/te32k.hqx; 72K]

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Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 19:55:32 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Brian Kendig)
Subject: [*] The Macintosh Secret Trick List

Here is my New and Improved Macintosh Secret Tricks List.
Enjoy, and I'll see you at MacWorld in San Francisco!

[Archived as /info-mac/report/mac-secret-trick-list.txt; 36K]

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 08:15:08 PST
From: [e-mail] (David L. Hirschberg)
Subject: -1070 error

Thanks to Al Bloom and John Carr for responding to my (and their) problem.
They both said that the only way out is to reboot.

If you missed out on my last post: I keep getting an error message of -1070
when I have a remote volume mounted using a mac on a network (appletalk or
ara) and the remote volume either crashes or the connection is broken.
There is no way to make the error message go away for good (command-period
doesn't work) and I end up having to reboot.  This is really annoying if
you have a server with 3 or 4 things going and a remote mac is rebooted or
if you are using ARA and you lose the phone line.

It seems that the error is related to filesharing being turned on.  If
filesharing is off on my mac when I lose the remote volume then there is no
error message.

This seems more like a bug then a feature to me.  There should be a way to
get out of it without having to reboot the mac.

Anymore more input is welcome

Cheers, David
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93  12:15 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Adjusting CPU load amongst applications

This is almost certainly an FAQ, but is it possible to adjust the
proportions of CPU time allotted to background applications?  I ask
because we sometimes background Mathematica while working in some fairly
undemanding foreground task like reading and sending mail (oh God,
Mathematica has crashed on me this very second - bus error!), and it
seems to me that while Mathematica is running in the background it grabs
very little CPU time.
Come to think of it, can one actually see what proportion of CPU time each
application is using, never mind adjusting it?
I understand there rudimentary ways of doing this in (shudder) Windows 3.x?
Or have I been misled by an insecure PC-phile?  Maybe it's time someone
wrote a suitable Mac utility?  Is it at all possible?

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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 13:04:11 EST
From: Theodore Lee <[e-mail]>
Subject: Background Printing of PostScript files

(second try, having received no responses to first query)

I recently just acquired a IIvx rather than some flavor of 486/50,
partly on assurances that I could do everything I needed to on it,
easier and just as fast as on a PC.  I find that one of those
assurances may have been misleading.  After having tried what I think
are all the appropriate applications or DA's/extensisons, I can't seem
to find any way of getting downloaded postscript files to print *in
the background*, i.e., using the PrintManager.  Is there some magic
answer? (The LaserWriter Utility works just fine, but it sits in the
foreground with the watch cursor and a dialogue window up. DTPrinter,
EasyPrint treat the postscript file as text and print it that way;
they would presumably work if there were a very simple application that
just read the postscript file a byte at a time and shipped it off to
printer-land.  PS Printer doesn't seem to work with the file manager;
Adobe's PrintPS  doesn't even work, probably not system 7 compatible
...)

(I'm using 7.1, the printer is an Everex Laserscript LX, some kind of
pretty darn exact clone of an apple laserwriter.)

[e-mail]

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Date: 4 Jan 1993 10:15:02 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Backing Up to an AppleShare

     Backing Up to an AppleShare Volume? (A)
DAVE <[e-mail]> asks:

>We are running an ethernet network and was wondering if one could backup
>data
to a networked AppleShare DAT or other large storage  device.  The idea >is to
allow users to link to an AppleShare DAT and back-up on the fly (i.e. >not
have
to drag copy everything in).
>
>I realized there are software and hardware ends to this solution...

Here's what I do:

I'm using an APS Archive Python 1.3 GB drive and Retrospect Remote to back up
64 remote users' Macs, 6 remote server, and 2 local volumes (total of about 78
volumes all together --- some of the remote Macs have 2 hard drives
attached).

When I first put together the proposal for a centralized backup system in our
college, I did some thorough research on various DAT drives (the October 1991
issue of MacUser has a great article, starting on page 116).  The drive I
finalized decided on based on price/performance, support, construction, etc.
was the APS Archive Python drive.  (Note:  See the first paragraph under
"Plug-'n'-Play Installation" on page 119 to see about my reference to
construction.)  You can store 1.3 GB on a 60-meter tape without compression
and
2.5 GB with compression.  90-meter tapes can hold 2.0 GB without, and 3.7 with
compression.  When we bought our drive (about a year ago), we bought it
directly from the dealer for $1,499.  Other comparable systems went for
between
$1500-$3000.  I thought APS was the best system for our needs, and at a
reasonable cost.  Contact:
     APS
     2900 S. 291 Hwy.
     Independence, MO  64057
     [phone]

I have it set up pretty well.  I have a Monday/Wednesday group of about half
of
my users.  I cycle the backups between two tapes.  I do the same for a second
group on a Tuesday/Thursday cycle.  I have less users for this group, but I'm
incrementally backing up my servers on this Tuesday/Thursday cycle.  Then I
also do a full backup of JUST my servers on Fridays.  Plus once a month, I
rejuvenate my incremental backups by doing a fresh new full backup. I've got
all these backup scenarios set up in scripts within Retrospect, and now it
only
takes me about 10 minutes per month to set up the backup schedule for the
month.  I just need to set up the backup schedule using Retrospect's built-in
calendaring function.  It works great!!!

You can get Retrospect Remote 10-packs for under $200 (I paid $165/10-pack).
A
copy of the Retrospect application comes with the APS drive.  So, starting at
about $1500, you can have a complete backup system.  That may be more than you
want to spend, but you can't put a price on lost data.  It's helped my offices
out of scrapes close to a dozen times already!

This really takes the worry and the burden of regular backups out of the hands
of the end user.  The only thing they need to do is to remember what night to
leave their machines on for backup.  They just leave their machine on at the
Retrospect shutdown screen, and when the backup is done on their Mac, it will
automatically shut down (only II series; the compact Macs like the SEs and the
Classics, as well as the LCs will go to the standard Mac shutdown screen).

Hope this helps!  :-)


Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 14:11 IST
From: Michael Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Converting CorelDraw files to Mac

I have acquired the CD Rom that comes with CorelDraw for a PC, and have been
trying to open its fine collection of clip art with Photoshop et al. No
problem
with .pcx and .tif files - I use either the PCX plug-in under Acquire... or
Open As... for tiff. But most of the material is in CorelDraw's own .cdr
format
and this cannot be opened. Does anyone know of either a plug-in to read .cdr
files or an app to convert them to something a little more Mac-ish?

All advice appreciated.

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Date: 4 Jan 93 16:57:28 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Mark B. Johnson)
Subject: CTB Basic Conn Set 1.1.1 on ftp.apple.com

The Communications Toolbox Basic Connectivity Set v1.1.1 is now available on
ftp.apple.com [130.43.2.3] in /ftp/dts/mac/sys.soft/netcomm/

Bug fixes and features
======================

Here are the features of the new software on the disk

XMODEM Tool 1.1
===============

XMODEM Tool 1.1 has been improved over ther XMODEM Tool 1.0.2 in the following
ways:

Improved reliability -- XMODEM Tool 1.1 is less susceptible to protocol
violations, line-noise, and corrupted bytes.

Performance increase of up to 400%.

There were a few cases when sending with the XMODEM Tool 1.0.2 where it would
not wait correctly for the receiver to acknowledge successful receipt of a
block. XMODEM Tool 1.1 fixes this problem.

Some improvements for System 7, including support for creating a new folder
when saving a downloaded file using Straight XMODEM or XMODEM Text transfers.

With XMODEM Tool 1.0.2, a dialog claiming that there wasn't enough disk space
to receive a file would appear when receiving with the MacBinary method if the
actual data received wasn't MacBinary. Now when non-MacBinary data arrives,
the
transfer switches to Straight XMODEM.


Serial Tool 1.0.2
=================

When using the Serial Port Arbitrator included with AppleTalk Remote Access,
the Serial Tool 1.0.1 would inform the user that the selected serial port was
in use, even when no other service was using the port. From that dialog,
holding down the Option key was the only way to allow the user to override the
"busy port" message.

The Serial Tool 1.0.2 properly allows the user access to the serial port when
the Serial Port Arbitrator is installed and the serial port is not in use by
another service.
--
Mark B. Johnson                                            AppleLink: mjohnson
Developer Technical Support                         domain: [e-mail]
Apple Computer, Inc.         UUCP:  {amdahl,decwrl,sun,unisoft}!apple!mjohnson

"You gave your life to become the person you are right now.  Was it worth it?"
                             - Richard Bach, _One_

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 17:15 EST
From: ROBERT_BROCKMAN <[e-mail]>
Subject: Does new analog board = new fan?

I recently had a new analog board put in my SE/30, but now it sounds like
there's a 747 winding its engines up for take off. I can't really tell if the
increased sound is coming from my fan or my hard disk. If I remember
correctly,
the fan is part of the power supply/analog board, so getting a new analog
board
would mean getting a new (for some reason noisier) fan, right? If not, and all
of the sudden my disk (an LPS Quantum 105) is making a bunch of racket, is
that
necessarily bad news? Performance is still fine, and still zero bad sectors
(according to Mr. Norton).

Any help would be appreciated, but talk loud!

Robert Brockman  aka [e-mail]  or  [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:57:16 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Karl Pottie)
Subject: FM Pro and global field

I have need for some kind of "global" field in Filemaker Pro: I need some
way to make one field-value accessible from all records in a file. The
value will change very often. Any ideas ?

[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 04:43:24 EDT
From: "Lyman Chapin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Font names listed in own font (A)

Thanks to all who replied to my question about how to cause the font
names in a "fonts" menu to be shown in their own font.  The responders
knew of no currently-available shareware init or extension that would
do this, and all suggested WYSIWYG Menus, part of the NOW Utilities
package, which *does* do this.

- Lyman Chapin

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Date: Mon,  4 Jan 93 10:08:40 +0100
From: "CHRISTIAN F. BUSER" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Full Write Pro (C)

[e-mail] asked:

>Having scoured the  seven seas I  still think that  FullWrite Pro is  the
>best damn word processor around (just a personal opinion). There was once
>a  movement  to  have  this  poor  orphan programme adopted. Has anything
>happened since then? Should we organize a concert to raise money?

If I remember right, Ashton-Tate has been taken over by Borland quite
some time ago, and Borland has withdrawn completely from the Macintosh.
Therefore, I think, even a fund raising campaign would not help. Sorry.

Best regards, Christian                   [e-mail]


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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 11:23:20 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Gameboy Kwirk(?)-like game for Mac?

Does anyone know about a Mac game equivalent to the popular hand held
Gameboy game named Kwirk (I'm not sure about the spelling).  Please email
me directly and I will summarize for the net if there is sufficient
interest.

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 07:40:58 -1000
From: [e-mail] (Gary A. Hartling)
Subject: Hard Disk error (A)

 ------
->        The disk does not have any bad sectors and tests okay with
-> "Norton Disk Doctor". I tried using "Disk First Aid" which comes
-> with System 7, but got the message :
->
->      "the disk is damaged. Cannot be repaired with
->       Disk First Aid".

I had the same kind of problem. I ran "Norton Disk Doctor" which patched
some things up, but "Disk First Aid" still said I had a problem that
couldn't be fixed. I then ran MacTools' "CP DiskFix" which patched some
more things up. When I ran "Disk First Aid" it said everything was fine.
Makes me think that "CP DiskFix" may be a better utility than Norton's
Disk Doctor.

Gary Hartling
NRaD Hawaii Lab
 ------

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 15:17:11 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Help with Heart of China!

I have been trying to solve Heart of China for months now and am no closer
to figuring out how to get nurse Kate out of the roped off area guarded by
two snakes.  For the sake of nurse Kate and the 9.5 megs that this game
occupies on my hard drive, please E-mail me your solution and/or post to
Info-Mac.

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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 11:45:43 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: HP 4m & TrueType fonts

Isn't the correct way to determine if the 4M can handle TT fonts is to
find out whether the printer is sent the TT font of a bitmapped version
of the font?

>From what I have read so far, I cannot tell if the printer driver is
sending the TT font, or if it is having the Mac generate the bitmapped
font required by the printer.

I imagine that someone with the HP printer (or HP themselves) could answer
this, as I am certain finding out otherwise would be tough...

Scott Chapman ([e-mail])

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Date: 02 Jan 1993 15:46:07 -0500 (EST)
From: "There is nothing to do...everywhere!" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #1

Here's a dumb question:
            How do you zap the PRAM?

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 15:05 PDT
From: "RGB Technology, Inc/703-834-1500" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Keyboard shortcut wanted (A)

Richard Lim asks how to move (via keyboard) from the Filename field
to the "directory structure" in a save dialog.

The TAB key will move from one area to the other.

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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 03:13:50 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Brian Gaeke)
Subject: Keyboard shortcut wanted (R)

[e-mail] says in #11:1...
>The thing is, say you want to get from the directory structure back to the
>line where the filename is, using the keyboard.  What IS the shortcut?


It's a Tab.

Brian ([e-mail])

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 15:04 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Keyboard shortcut wanted (thanks)

Okay, I'm a cretin.  It was TAB!  Thanks to all respondents

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 08:37 CDT
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Lemmings

My sister gave me a copy of Lemmings for Christmas, and I've spent way too
much time on it already--it's addictive as hell.  However, I am currently
stuck on level 49--anyone able to offer up some advice on how to get past
it?

Thanks!

-Dwight

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 12:41:40 MST
From: ASQE-IHE USAISSDC <[e-mail]>
Subject: MAC executables via Apple File Exchange

    I would like to retrieve Macintosh programs from Internet archives
for friends on an occasional basis.  Could someone refer me to a files which
explains the procedure for downloading through Unix-based hosts then
using Apple File Exchange to read in the files from an MSDOS disk?

    Please reply to this address as I am not a list subscriber.


Thanks,


Steven Lesh

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 17:49:42 PST
From: "Anthony E. Siegman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Macintosh Draw Programs With Direct Coordinate Editing?

   Are there any not-too-expensive drawing programs for the Macintosh
that permit direct numerical editing of points or coordinates (i.e.,
line vertices), and possibly other parameters, as _text_ (i.e., as
numbers in a table or array)?  -- and possibly the import of number
pairs in tabular form and their conversion to line segments or
polynomial objects?

   [Maybe even the ability to edit numerically the center point,
radius, and arc limits of a circular arc?]

   I know that MacDraw II can _measure_ or display lengths or
coordinate values; but I'm not aware of any program like MacDraw or
SuperPaint that permits one to edit such values numerically.

   [e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 00:04:56 -0800
From: Scott Allen Gruby <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacTools/Mirror

>Has anyone who uses MacTools, 911 Utilities or Public Utilities
>noticed similar problems in these packages' equivalent to
>FileSaver? Thanks, Pete Tamas
>[e-mail], Temple Univ, Philadelphia (betw New York & Wash DC)

I was not paying attention to the discussion. What kinds of problems are
people having? Lately I am having problems with MacTools Mirror (2.0). When
I empty the trash (Empty Trash) my machine crashes. What is interesting is
it happens even if I Empty Trash in my mail program, Eudora. I gather
Mirror tracks Empty Trash as such. I removed all inits/extensions and it
still crashed. Tech Support hasn't gotten back to me. Anyone else seen
this?

Thanks.


Scott Allen Gruby
Macintosh Technical Specialist
Academic Computing Services, Harvey Mudd College
Claremont, CA 91711

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 05:27:56 -0500
From: Gary Goldberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac TV boards

I've had the same experience as you when asking vendors about
TV boards for the Mac. The PC guys laugh.

I use a RasterOps 24STV board to watch TV. It gives full motion 24bit
color live video in an infinitely resizable window (up to 640x480).
It won't run the sound through the Mac directly, so I have a VCR sitting
next to my IIcx, with the video running into the Mac and audio split
between a MacRecorder and my boom box. So I can digitize QuickTime movies
or listen while I watch movies.

The 24STV is a combo 640x480 24bit video card, frame grabber, live video
and Quicktime movie digitizer. It works with a MacRecorder to do QT video+
audio movies, but won't pass the sound through otherwise (hence the setup
above). It has an RCA and S-VIDEO inputs. I typically will launch the app
that comes with it (which has controls for brightness, contrast, color hue
and intensity, RGB components, masking, etc.), resize the window so it fits
alongside my other app windows, and watch.

The board is about $775 mail order. Since it also does the display board,
you can save some money by selling your current display board. Also, it
has rock-solid frame grabs as well.

It's an awful lot to spend if you just want to watch TV (you could buy a
very nice 27" stereo TV for the same money) but if you have a desire for
all of its features, it does it very well for the money. I had an Apple
4.8 video card that I upgraded to an 8.24, and a VideoSpigot. Together,
they cost/were worth about $500. So I didn't see it as much of a jump to
sell those boards to buy this one.

As always, I have no connection with RasterOps other than sending them
some of my money.

PS - The board will only digitize QuickTime video+audio at ~8 fps. BUT -
I spoke to RasterOps techs who told me how to beat that - turn compression
to NONE and sample the sound separately, then combine in Premiere or
some program like that. I'm getting ~14-15 fps in a 120x160 24bit window
when I do this. And I can get faster if I record to RAM. Biggest problem is
getting the sound resync-ed to the video. I look for sound peaks in the
waveform and match that to a transition frame in the video. - Gary

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Date: 02 Jan 1993 18:14:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: GREG HINSON <[e-mail]>
Subject: Maelstrom Easter Eggs

I haven't had much time to read the digest lately, so forgive me if I'm not
the
first to report these, but I just stumbled onto a couple of neat Easter Eggs
in
version 1.03 of Andrew Welch's superb game, Maelstrom. At the main control
screen, just hit either the X or the L key...but watch out for TurboFunk! :)

                        --Greg Hinson

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 15:58:38 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Miles Abernathy)
Subject: Metamorphosis Is Not Like Morph

A few days ago someone posted a message which led me to believe that
Metamorphosis and Morph software were similar. Unfortunately, that does not
seem to be the case.

Metamorphosis is a utility from Alysis that lets you convert Adobe fonts to
outlines. The demo version posted on sumex works only on the numbers and
upper-case consonants.

Morph is a commercial application that, given starting and ending PICT's,
creates the in-between images.

Tween is a shareware application that, given starting and ending line
images, creates a sort of movie of a transformation between them. The two
images must be drawn on the screen using Tween's tools, which are very
limited.

So far as I know, there is no other application for the Mac like Morph.

Miles Abernathy ([e-mail])

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 15:16:04 EST
From: [e-mail] (Sridar Narayanan)
Subject: Michel/Michele

> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 18:56:57 EST
> From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Michel/Michele

Actually, the feminine version of Michel is Michelle.
Michele is the masculine Italian version of Michel (Michael), pronounced
Mickelay (accent on the second syllable).

Sridar

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Date: 4 Jan 1993 10:17:46 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Opening Text files in Word

     Opening Text files in Word 5.0 (A)
Pete Tamas <[e-mail]> asks:

>Does anyone know how to turn off the "Select a Converter" dialog
>box when opening a Text-only (ASCII) file in Word 5.0? Or, is the
>ability to turn this off a feature of 5.1?

I believe that if there are two possibilities for converting a text file,
"Text
Only" and "Text with Layout", it will pop up this dialog box.  The way to get
rid of it is to remove the "Text with Layout" converter file from the Word
Commands folder.  I don't know about 5.1, since I don't have it.....yet!  :-)


Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 23:36:01 CST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Personal Lawyer type software

Hello netters,

I was wondering if any of you have any experience with Personal Lawyer type
software (ex: Will, Living Trust,.....).  Especially one that has the part
that explains what type of medical attention you want (ex: pull the plug
or leave it plugged in,....).

Send any and all replies to one of the addressesbelow.

adTHANKSvance (THANKS in advance)

Terry L. Hartman
Coordinator - Microcomputer Services
U.T. - Pan American

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

I know - too many to choose from ;-}  the first two will be the best.

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Date: 3 Jan 93 10:51:25 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Eric Anderson)
Subject: Powerbook Duo 210 - New Observations

I posted some initial observations about the 210 about a month ago.
Now that I've been to Japan and back, I have more comments which might
be helpful to potential buyers.  And please send me suggestions if you
have similar experiences.

1. It snores!
   When my 210 is put to sleep, and the power plug removed, it snores.
   A light buzzing comes from the rear, near the power jack.  In any but
   the quietest places, you have to put it within a few inches of the ear
   to hear it.  Battery life is good when asleep, so there is no evidence
   that this is a fault.  But I'd like to know if anyone else hears this!
   (When shut down, or the battery is removed, it is completely silent)

2. Battery life
   I took four batteries with me for the flights across the Pacific.  I never
   ran out of power - the flight from Los Angeles is eleven and a half hours
   but between meals and movies I only used up two batteries.  With the screen
   set to minimum (quite bright in a dark plane) and the conservation set to
   maximum (not too annoying) and processor cycling on, but full CPU speed, I
   got well over two hours of use per battery.  These batteries discharge
   themselves when not in use, and after 24 hours they've lost maybe 30
   minutes of charge.  So plan ahead and keep them topped off.

   I bet I could get close to three hours with a big RAMdisk.  Anyone know
   what another 12 meg of RAM would do to battery life?  It must draw some
   power after all...

   While we're talking about the battery, I have had zero problems with
   loose connections.  Just make sure that it is tightly latched as intended
   and you should be fine.

   The battery slip-case has sharp innards that dig grooves into the battery.
   This is silly.  Discard the case, or sand down the ridges in the case
   (not so easy).  You can also slice off the pin way inside the case that
   latches the battery in there and it's much easier to use the case.  The
   primary latch, in front, is good enough without that darn plastic pin.

3. The screen
   I love this screen, the gray looks so sharp compared to 1-bit.  The
   shadows can be mostly eliminated with a good background (I like a slight
   variation of the 3-d grid that comes with the unit (the lighting direction
   on that grid is wrong!)) and proper contrast.  The biggest offender for
   shadows is window title bars, sets of horizontal lines.  (Try setting the
   background to white/black horizontal 1-pixel stripes - the screen becomes
   garbage!)  I'm waiting patiently for someone to write an init or a new
   WDEF that uses 50% gray for the title lines - that would greatly reduce
   the shadows.

   I found that tilting the screen so that the "perpendicular vector" points
   slightly *above* my eyes gives the best possible contrast.  (Ie, tilt it
   a little farther back than just looking straight on).  This can be
   difficult to achieve in Economy Class, and one flight had seats designed
   such that if the person in front of me reclined, my 210 would get wedged
   between the tray and seat, and possibly crushed!  So for peace of mind I
   moved to a seat behind an empty seat.

   When the screen is off, it takes a minute to warm up.  It comes on fairly
   bright, but gradually increases to full.  This is subtle enough that I
   thought it was my eyes for a while.  Does anyone know what kind of light
   is used to light the screen?  Do they ever burn out?  Should I keep them
   off when I'm plugged in and the light is not needed?

4. RAM required for system.
   With networking off, and few inits, the system takes some 1300K.  That
   isn't bad, and I know devoted people can trim that further.  Be sure to
   toss (or relocate) the QuickTime extension if you don't need it.

5. Keyboard
   This keyboard just isn't a desktop keyboard.  It is quite adequate, but
   the spacebar takes some getting used to and it will always be a little
   less comfortable/natural than a full-sized keyboard.  For extended use
   at home you'll be happier with a real mouse and keyboard.  The floppy
   adapter is adequate for this if the docks seem too expensive.

6. Travel
   It is wonderfully light.  A nice padded case, power supply, spare battery
   and an appletalk cable shouldn't be over 8 pounds, total.  Fits great in
   any briefcase, too.

7. Appletalk
   I find that a simple ImageWriter II cable works fine to connect any two
   Appletalk ports:  210 and LaserWriter, 210 and IIci, etc.  It's a lot more
   compact than a pair of phonenet connectors!

8. Summary
   I love it.  Sun Computers wants $1999 for them, developers can do better
   but may have to wait a while.  They are abundant in San Diego stores.
   I see no need for the faster 230, though the dealer said most people are
   opting for the 230.  My most desirable option now (in addition to four
   batteries, two power supplies and one charger (on order)) would be 4 or
   8 more MB of RAM.  It's a well balanced machine, but 4MB is a little
   tight.

Please comment.  Disagree or suggest things I've overlooked.  Ask questions.


Eric Anderson                                     [e-mail]
Computer Systems Laboratory
University of California, San Diego               [phone] (fax)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 12:05:23 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Brad Ackerman)
Subject: Printers w/ 3 paper trays

Does anyone know of a laser printer (NOT a Linotronic) with 2 legal-size
trays and an envelope tray?  Please send make and model via e-mail, also
company's automatic FAX spec sheet sender # and/or regular # if you have
them.

Brad Ackerman                                       [e-mail]
IN MEMORIAM + Gene Wesley Roddenberry 1921 19 August - 1991 24 October

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 02:02:49 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Paul Antaki)
Subject: Prograph

Someone recently asked about prograph 2.5. Although I haven't used this latest
version I have had some significant experience with v2.0. Prograph is a very
powerful object-flow (data flow + oo) language. The compiled code it produces
is said to be more compact and efficient than that produced by various
smalltalk versions.

Prograph applications adhere to Macintosh user-interface guidelines much more
closely than smalltalk. Although one of the big attractions of prograph is
that
it is a visual programming language, this does not mean that it is simple or
easy to learn. Although it is possible to isolate oneself from the toolbox,
prograph provides programmers with access to all Mac toolbox functions. I have
also heard that v 2.5 also includes full support for adding balloon help and
apple event handling to applications.

Prograph can also be extended by writing C or Pascal code. I hope this helps.
Please don't hesitate to ask me more specific questions.

Paul
[e-mail]

P.S. The $130 price is the best I have ever seen for prograph.

------------------------------

Date: 03 Jan 1993 12:32:38 -0600 (CST)
From: "William M. Porter" <[e-mail]>
Subject: proliferating disk icons redux

Sometime before Christmas something was said here about this problem or one
very similar, but I didn't save it; I apologize for the redundancy.

When I returned from vacation and booted up my LC II last night, instead of
ONE
icon for my external hard disk (a Mirror 45Mb portable drive) there were, I
think, six. What's stranger, they all seemed to be functional. I used the SCSI
Mounter to unmount five of them, but upon reboot the problem recurred. I shut
down and changed the SCSI address of that drive from 3 to 2. Upon reboot, the
duplicate icons had disappeared. But I am not confident that they won't come
back.

What >causes< this weird problem? And have I done the right thing to solve it
(change the SCSI address of the offending drive) or is there some other,
better
remedy? Send replies to the Digest, if you wish, though I would prefer replies
be sent to me directly; I will post a summary if it seems useful.

William Porter -- Internet: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 19:56 PST
From: [e-mail] (Daryl Spitzer)
Subject: rot13 off-line decoder

Bryan Walls writes:

> I don't know the answer, but it seems to me that would be a terribly
> logical Extension for someone to write for BBedit.

I wrote one months ago while beta-testing BBEdit.  Send me mail and I'll
send it to you.

(I guess I should post it to the digest.  How do I go about doing that?
Do I just send a message with the BinHexed file included?)

------------------------------

Date: 4 Jan 1993 10:23:15 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Scheduling Programs (A)

     Scheduling Programs (A)
Marcos Paz <[e-mail]> asks about scheduling/calendaring
programs:

>I am working with a community-access TV station that would like to use their
>Macs to schedule and report on the use of their equipment, volunteers, etc.
>The scheduling is for tracking status of each piece of equipment and
>training
received by volunteers.  Reporting is for the funders who provide >equipment
to
the station.
>
>Is anyone aware of any dedicated resource scheduling/calendar/reporting
>programs that can do this, or is the best approach to implement this with
>one
of the existing Mac DB programs?

------

and Bruce Carter <[e-mail]> asks about a facility/resource
scheduling program:

>I need to find a new scheduling program for use in our facility.  We have,
>up
to this point, been using a product called Front Desk, but it is >apparently
no
longer supported.  Additionally, we have been having some >trouble with it and
want to move to something a bit more functional.
>
>We need to schedule equipment and facilities such as editing rooms, studios,
>multimedia classrooms, satellite uplink and downlink facilities and so on.
>We need to generate reports of what is going on when, and be able to query
>the system for open times.
>
>I'm hoping there is something off the shelf that will work well, because
>otherwise I'm being drafted to write a 4D database to do it...  Please help
>me before I code again.


I think I might be able to suggest one thing for both of these needs:

Meeting Maker by On Technologies.  It usually is used for optimum scheduling
of
people, by checking the schedules of all people that are required to attend a
meeting and finding a free time for the meeting.  It can also be used to
schedule facilities and equipment as well.  You can set up "schedules" that
your meeting rooms, overhead projectors, volunteers, studios, or whatever else
you wish to schedule are being used.  Then just specify what equipment and
rooms are needed for a new project, and it will find an optimum time when all
those items are available.  I think that it might be just what you're looking
for.

There is a demo at sumex: info-mac/demo/meeting-maker-15.hqx.  Take a look at
that, and then give On Technologies a call at 1-800-548-8871 and ask for a
brochure.


Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 18:08 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Spooler for StyleWriter?

Is there a shareware or PD spooler for the StyleWriter? I have tried
PrintAid, but this is only an almost-spooler, since one cannot work
in the word-processing application one is printing from...

_Den'      [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 12:56 CST
From: "Robert E. Front" <[e-mail]>
Subject: StyleWriter Cartridges

Apple* StyleWriter cartridges cost me about $25 a piece here in
Taiwan. I eat these things up like hot biscuits with butter, which
amounts to a tidy sum over a year. I am not keen on refilling used
cartridges but would like to be able to buy them at a better price
(perhaps in bulk). So, (1) Who presently offers the best deal (i.e,
best quality at the lowest price) on such cartridges? (2) What's their
fax number?

                                                                                                        Thanks,

                                                                                                r
                                                                                                o
                                                                                                b
                                                                                                e
                                                                                                r
                                                                                                t
                                                                  r
                                                                  o
                                                                  b
                                                                  e
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                                                                  t

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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 09:39:15 -0500
From: "Tom Wilson" <[e-mail]> (Tom Wilson)
Subject: Symbolic Algebra Program wanted

Can anyone give me some leads on a good, simple, symbolic math software
package for the Mac?   I can't afford, nor do I need, the capabilities of
Mathematica or MathCAD.  All need is something that illustrates the
associative, commutative, and dristributive laws and allows the user to
create his own equations and manipulate them.

ANY TEACHERS OUT THERE WITH SUGGESTIONS?


Tom Wilson
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
<[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 12:36:20 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: System 7.1/Font/Printing Question...

On Fri, 1 Jan 1993 13:30:28 GMT you said:
>Are you using ATM?  If so, which version?  ATM v 2.0.3 won't work correctly
>with system 7.1.  You have to put your fonts back in their OLD places
>(extensions folder and systems folder).  I understand that ATM v 3.0 fixes
>this but I haven't nailed that one down yet.  Hope this helps a little.

You CAN patch ATM 2.0.3 with ResEdit so that it can find the Fonts
Folder:

Open up the "ATM 68020/030" file.  Open the DCOD resources, then open
up DCOD id -15005 (the second one).  Do an ascii search for the string
"extn" and replace the one instance with "font".

Thanks to [e-mail] (Jim Burmeister) for providing
this tip to readers of Info-Mac last October :)

/s Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Sun,  3 Jan 1993 17:15:29 +0000
From: Elliot Bennett <[e-mail]>
Subject: System 7.1/Font/Printing Question... (again)

I wrote awhile ago:

>>Can someone please explain to me why when printing a Canvas 3.05 >>graphic
in Word 5.0a document on a Duo 230 with System 7.1, >>PrintMonitor lists an
error: "cannot find Geneva- using Courier
>>instead" when, in fact, Geneva (true type and various bitmap
>>sizes) are sitting plain as day in my Fonts folder (so blessed
>>with the "A" on its icon)?

and knuth!raider!theporch.raider.net![e-mail] replied:

>Are you using ATM?  If so, which version?  ATM v 2.0.3 won't work
>correctly with system 7.1.

The answer: I AM using 2 to the power of 478 extensions, but ATM (of any
version) is not one of them.  Nice try though...

-Elliot Bennett

P.S.- I changed all the fonts in my document to Helvetica and everything
worked just fine- but that's not really a solution...

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 21:06:00 MEZ
From: Patrick Maun <[e-mail]>
Subject: Telephone for Dovefax (Q)

Hello,
    A while ago someone posted me the telephone number of the company
that writes the software for the DoveFax Plus fax modem. I have misplaced
it somewhere and need it as my fax doesn't work with my Powerbook 140.
Thanks for the help!

Patrick Maun
Vienna, Austria
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 07:39:47 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Trash: no get info (A)

Thanks to those who responded to my question concerning not being able to
summon the Get Info window with command-I. Mario Maroncelli's answer
summarizes the comments I received:

The problem is probably related to the use of the cdev "Speedy Finder
1.5.4".
Try this: Press command-shift-I. This probably will pop up the desired info
window.
Now you can either use this shortcut or remove Speedy Finder from your HD
and wait for a new, bug free, release.

Wendy Farkas
Virginia Tech

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:59:19 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Wayne K. Walrath)
Subject: UK readers: Seeking info-> Quidnunc company or Bespoke DB??

I recently came across a description of a London based company named
"Quidnunc" which is developing Mac software for corporate clients and
front-ends for the "Bespoke" database.

If anyone knows about this "Bespoke" product or anything about the company
named above, perhaps you could contact me via email.

Sorry to trouble everyone else!
<[e-mail]>

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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:18:42 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Marcus Harvey)
Subject: Usage Recording Software

I have been asked to track down sofware for recording usage statistics on a
Mac network. Anyone know what's out there?

Also, are there any reports on setting up Macs on Novell available for ftp?

Marcus Harvey, University of Westminster IRS
JANET: [e-mail]
INTERNET: marcus%westminster.ac.uk@ukacrl

                              ...Bubble Up!

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:37:24 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Brad Ackerman)
Subject: VT320 emulators (A)

All the suggestions in #309 are too expensive for just VT320.  You want the
Apple Communication Toolbox and a Comm Toolbox compatible comm program like
Termy (avaliable from sumex-aim.stanford.edu) or the Telecom module of any
integrated program you might have.

Brad Ackerman
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 08:38:11 -0600 (CST)
From: Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>
Subject: Whatever happened to FullWrite? (R)

[e-mail] writes:

> Having scoured the seven seas I still think that FullWrite Pro is the best
> damn word processor around (just a personal opinion).  There was once a
> movement to have this poor orphan programme adopted.  Has anything happened
> since then?  Should we organize a concert to raise money?

    I agree, every word processor that I have seen for the Mac is either
klutzy, clumsy, or just difficult to use.  FullWrite IS the only one that
I like.  Before flames begin, FullWrite has the sweetest and easiest
outliner to use, ESPECIALLY when traditional I., A, 1, a, 1), a) type
levels are wanting to be used, mixed, altered and changed for the creation
of multiple choice worksheets.
    FullWrite's use of sidebars is fantastic.  I can take a master
worksheet, and merely click on the sidebar icon and select copy.  Creating
new exams from the copied sidebars is so very easy.
    And mixing all of this with columns is great.
    And then, there are the voice post-it notes.  No extra modules to
install, no bloating of the program.  This is an EXCELLENT word processer
and one I wish somebody could pry from Borland to bring it back to the
life it deserves.
    A petition was mounted last year to save the product.  The petitions
were apparently accepted and nothing has been heard since.  At the time,
telephone conversations never went past the receptionist and no calls
were returned.
    Only on GEnie was I able to get any feedback at all and it was
basically a "business is business" reply and when I pressed the issue,
was jumped by other users.  Turns out the other users hated FullWrite
anyway ("It wouldn't work on my 1 meg Mac in 1989!!!!") and told me to
smell the roses and go with Nissus or Word.  I suggested Word Perfect
had the closest outliner that worked like FullWrite's and was told
that Word's was better.  I never could get anyone to try to work with
FullWrite's outliner and mix the outline with columns and no columns.
    So, til the program finally breaks with System 9, I'll continue to
use it.  It IS THE BEST WORD PROCESSOR FOR THE MAC, for me...

--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 09:28:02 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Where did TidBITS go?

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> what happened to tidbits? where can I get the info on the new powerbook
> announcments etc? where are the latest rumors posted?

If you must know, TidBITS flew from Redmond, Washington to Ithaca,
NY for a short vacation and two week hiatus. And here I thought people
could go two weeks without their TidBITS fix. :-)

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

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