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- From: arie@eecs.umich.edu (Arie Covrigaru)
- Subject: Re: Mac Disertation Word Processor
- In-Reply-To: segall+@cs.cmu.edu's message of 4 Jan 93 19:06:42 GMT
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- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:57:53 GMT
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- >>>>> On 4 Jan 93 19:06:42 GMT, segall+@cs.cmu.edu (Edward Segall) said:
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- | brianj@bedrock.cs.umd.edu (Brian Johnson) writes:
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- |>I'd like to hear some opinions about word processors for large
- |>projects (my dissertation).
-
- |>I have a Macintosh at home and at school, as well as access to UNIX.
- |>I prefer not to use latex.
-
- |>Latex Nasty for images.
-
- |>MacWrite No support for multi-piece projects.
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- |>Microsoft Word Minimal support for multi-piece projects
- |> ok references with WordRef
- |> good tables, list generation
- |> good for figures
-
- |>WordPerfect Nice, clean looking interface
- |> multi-piece projects with publish and subscribe?
- |> table and list generation
- |> automatic figure numbering and cross references
- |> support for bibliographic references???
-
- |>I have not tried any others
-
- |>Is Nisus the way to go? I am still a poor grad student working on his
- |>dissertation so money is a factor, but so is time. I wnat to
- |>concentrate on writing - not tables, figure numbering, citations, etc.
-
- |>Thanks for any feedback. Any pleasant dissertation writing tales out
- |>there?
-
- | Here's an unpleasant dissertation writing tale. MS Word sucks for
- | doing a dissertation. Maybe 5.1 is better, but I found a half-dozen
- | confirmed bugs in 5.0 that stopped me cold. I ain't stupid, but for
- | that and many other reasons, I averaged about 2 calls/week to MS tech
- | support over the course of about 8 months.
-
- | Why all this trouble? First, as with every complex system, Word has
- | many ways to do things. Therefore, when doing a document as large and
- | complex as a dissertation, if you don't have prior experience with the
- | application, you are going to organize things the wrong way sometimes,
- | and have to reorganize them, possibly several times. Second, as a
- | technical person, I tried to actually use many of Word's more advanced
- | features. But certain features, like OLE and publish/subscribe, were
- | meant to have limited use, so that slow speed and fixing Word's
- | screwups would not be problems. Not true if you use them extensively.
- | There are many other reasons to list, but it's not worth the time and
- | effort.
-
- | I am currently learning Framemaker, which I would not originally
- | consider, due to its cost. But the time I lost by working on Word's
- | screwups would have paid that cost many times over in lost wages
- | (since I didn't start working till I defended the dissertation).
-
- | My advice: Check out framemaker. Biggest benefit: Cross-platform
- | compatibility (except Mac figures, but you can use Framemaker's figure
- | editor to work around that).
-
-
- | --Ed
-
- I used MS word for large manuscripts that included figures, tables,
- formulae and imported EPS. In putting a manuscript together I made
- use of Word's links, table generation, publish and subscribe (I
- subscribed to charts generated by MS Excel) and TOC (table of contents)
- generation. I was able to have all my text and graphics manipulated
- with Word's styles and made use of Word's integrated outlining
- features, which I find much improved in the latest versions of Word.
- I recommend MS Word for writing a dissertation on a Macintosh computer,
- unless it must be portable and editable in other platforms. I have
- seen dissertations written in MS Word in computer science and
- mathematics and they looked as good as any other LaTeX processed
- manuscripts.
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-
- Arie.
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