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- From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
- Subject: Re: Will Windows crawl on my system?
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- Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:48:18 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec27.233349.27431@netcom.com> ergo@netcom.com (Isaac Rabinovitch) writes:
- >In <1gqtpqINNiel@hpscit.sc.hp.com> matthias@nsr.hp.com (Matthias Kamm) writes:
- >
- >
- >>Believe it or not, I was perfectly happy running Excel and WinWord
- >>with Windows 3.0 on my old 286 machine with lots of RAM. The main
- >>time killer was switching back and forth between DOS and windows
- >>(286 "brain dead" processor feature). You'll have no such problems.
- >
- >There's a certain mythology connected with the 286 and Windows. Most
- >people are under the impression that the 286 "isn't powerful enough"
- >for Windows 3.0 or 3.1. The truth is that, as far as Windows is
- >concerned, the only difference betweeen the two is Windows enhanced
- >mode, which won't work on a 286. So no DOS box, modem communication isn't
- >as smooth, etc.
-
- I agree. There have been too many posts stating what you say.
-
- Actually, Standard Mode is a quite a bit faster than Enhanced Mode
- on the same machine (at least with 3.0), but you do lose function-
- ality, which may or may not matter, depending on what you are doing.
- It may actually make sense to run in Standard Mode if you have a
- 386SX-16. If you have a 40 mHz 386 you have speed to burn and it
- won't make sense since you're losing 32 bit disk access and virtual
- RAM.
-
- >What *is* crucial is processor speed. Intel apparently never bothered
- >to make 386s slower than 16 mhz, and by the time the 286/16 appeared,
- >386/16 systems were begining to compete for shelf space, so few people
- >have 286 systems faster than 12mhz. But I keep hearing of people who
- >are happy with Windows running on ATs, and after all 75% of a 386/16's
- >performance is still pretty good.
-
- I'd say that to make Windows happy on a 286 you need:
-
- 1) lots of RAM. At least 4 Meg.
- 2) a fast video card. Tseng ET4000 at least.
- 3) a new, fast hard drive. 40 Megs will get you Windows and one
- major app, you'll need perhaps 80-100 Meg.
-
- >The memory weirdness of DOS is probably a factor here. Since few DOS
- >programs make use of extended memory, and memory was expensive, most
- >ATs were used with about 1 meg. Now memory is cheep, and Windows
- >needs tons and tons of it. So a 286 that's gonna become a Windows
- >beast probably needs a *major* memory upgrade -- which is still
- >cheaper than somehow upgrading or replacing the motherboard.
-
- Yes and no. Depends on how recent the MB is, whether it takes SIMMs,
- how much total memory, etc. A newer 286 MB doesn't cost much, or even
- better a new 386 motherboard of some sort, or even a used one. Remember
- also that if you own an EMS card Windows can't use EMS. (Remember EMS?
- 9-) )
-
- The best deals around at this point in time are probably the AMD 386-40
- or Cyrix 486DLC motherboards. The former are just over $200.
-
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