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- From: spielman@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Terence P. Spielman)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
- Subject: Re: UW2 Arrghhhh!!
- Message-ID: <104391@netnews.upenn.edu>
- Date: 11 Jan 93 22:19:54 GMT
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- In article <C0pE5v.7MK@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umcoyne0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Jude Coyne) writes:
- >In <1822@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labdg@emory.edu (Diego) writes:
- >
- >>You know, I've always considered myself a patient person, but
- >>Origin's disks really drive me crazy (you'd think they warehouse
- >>the #$%^ things next to a giant magnet). I just went through 3
- >>different copies of UW2 from two different stores and EACH and
- >>EVERY one had a botched up disk one (DOS crc errors & sector not
- >>founds when trying to install or back up). Finally I returned it
- >>and went for a nice battlechess on cd-rom (no chance of bad floppy
- >>there ;-). The sad part is, many if not most of my other Origin
- >>games seem to have come on disposable disks as well. My original
- >>Ultima Underworld disks went bad after 6 months, while my first set
- >>of Wing Commander I disks were completely dead on arrival (as were
- >>the next four sets I tried), and my Wing Commander II disks died
- >>about 4 months after purchase (good thing for the cd-rom edition!).
- >
- > The same thing happened to my WCII disks as well! When I originally got the game, disk #6 did
- >not work, so I returned it for a replacement. I played the game, completed it, removed it from the
- >hard drive. Go to reinstall it, and guess what? It didn't work!
-
-
- Please don't flame me for giving a possible solution....
-
- One reason you may have problems reading and writing from/to floppies
- is because your controller card cannot keep up with your bus speed.
-
- One day I decided to change the bus speed on my 486/50 from 8.33 MHz
- to 12.5 MHz by adjusting the BIOS. Simple enough. I didn't notice any
- problems and so told my brother to do similiarly. He also never saw
- any problems...until one day he tried to install (or rather re-install)
- Ultima Underworld:The Stygian Abyss. BAng!!! Without fail, Origin's
- install program would complain about DOS crc errors. So, he asked me what
- I thought, and after mucho experimentation and similar problems on my
- machine (we have identical computers), I discovered that my controller card
- (and I/O card, although this is irrelevant), are both rated up to 8MHz
- ONLY!!! Hence, the bus speed was too fast.
-
- The morale of the story is, if 3 sets of independent disks cause problems,
- perhaps it's not the disks, but the hardware. See if your bus speed is
- faster than 8MHz or not. If necessary, ask your harware supplier if all
- your system components are rated at more than 8MHz. (My supplier confirmed
- that the cards he installs only go to 8MHz.)
-
- Finally, before anybody flames me by saying that the disks were defective, and
- I don't know what I'm talking about...I will say that it seems unlikely to
- me that three sets of disks were screwed, but then again it is possible.
-
- Terence
- spielman@pender.ee.upen.edu
-
-