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- From: perry@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Perry Scott)
- Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:45:11 GMT
- Subject: Re: When will HP supply PATCHES before they are Required?
- Message-ID: <17780305@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM>
- Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
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- References: <721721627snx@johnwuu.canb.auug.org.au>
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- >>>It's great that it's going to change :) Seriously though, on an economic
- >>>point, what about litigation ?
-
- >>You are asking a software guy a legal question. I am not qualified to
- >>answer. I think HP covers its legal and moral obligations in these
- >>matters.
-
- >That's a good point, although my mother thought it was very funny..
- >As an attorney, she could tell you that warranties and service contracts
- >carry this wonderful little strings that consumers can pull.
-
- I understand your point. You are correct. I was speaking in more general
- terms where HP uncovers a very serious problem. What are the obligations
- to customers not on support contract? While we have the shipping labels,
- it is difficult to contact the end users in many cases. Those people on
- support contract are by comparison very easy to contact. It's another good
- reason to have a minimal support contract. We don't mind doing a bulk-mail
- to everyone on the support contract list.
-
- >Therefore, HP would be required
- >to fix the problem (in my case, with the frecover bug, they did) or
-
- Yes.
-
- >reimburse me as a result of their error (the ones they're not supposed
- >to make)
-
- Secondary damages are further into the grey legal area. That's probably
- where the lawyers make their money.
-
- >It's not just the technical aspect, either.. Sales took eight months to get
- >their act straight with the expensive service contract we bought.. I couldn't
- >get the on-site service we paid for because someone kept neglecting to make
- >sure everything was done right on the paperwork. Since I didn't get what I
- >paid for, I'm going to demand that HP give me one year of service from the
- >date they finally issued a proper contract (last week). If they refuse,
- >we could litigate. :)
-
- You should get what you paid for. :-) If the contract wasn't
- practically in force then you should have to pay. That's just my
- opinion based on the description.
-
- >Do you know how ANNOYING it is not to be able to call the support number
- >with 5 questions and having to wait to get 5 calls back from god knows
- >how many response centers!?
-
- I understand your point. I don't really know how to respond, other than
- tell you how we run the support biz.
-
- In order to get 24 hour coverage, we have response centers in Atlanta GA,
- Germany, and Australia. That may explain the accents.:-) Depending on
- the difficulty of the question, it gets passed up the feeding chain to
- people more expert in the area. So, if you asked tough questions about
- X, the kernel, Soft PC, fbackup, and lpadmin, it is quite likely you will
- get 5 different people calling back. One person can't know everything,
- nor can the experts train one person to give you the answers (and more
- importantly answer any followup questions).
-
-
- Perry Scott
- HP Ft Collins
-