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- From: eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.A. Story)
- Subject: Re: Attn Commodore: You are making a Big Mistake (Hardware
- Message-ID: <1993Jan10.213920.21665@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
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- References: <38369@cbmvax.commodore.com> <1993Jan7.100547.188@imada.ou.dk>
- Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:39:20 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan7.100547.188@imada.ou.dk>, Bjoern Reese writes:
- > Oh dear, and I thought this thread had almost died...
-
- Nope...(evil laugh)
-
- > I pay a lot (I didn't say whether it was too much or not) for my
- > computer, and I have a right to be able to use it as I like
- > (including hardware bashing.) As nobody pays me anything for my
- > demos, nobody has the right to expect anything from it. They can
- > take it or leave it.
-
- THAT's fine... but that's not what we are discussing. IF C= releases a
- hardware manual with AGA registers in it, they are basically saying that
- they will support these registers in the future. They won't, so they aren't.
-
- Coding demos using the hardware is fine with me. Use any of the AGA hardware
- doc files that are appearing now to do it. C= is not preventing you from
- bashing the hardware at all... They're just not supporting it.
-
- Remember, we're talking real life here... It's apparent that some developers
- don't read the little notes in the existing HRM about retaining compatibility.
- What makes you think they will pay attention to a note about some of the AGA
- registers not being supported?
-
- > If a piece of software doesn't work, it's the fault of the _publisher_
- > In principle, I still can't comprehend why the computer manufacturer
- > put these restrictions upon everybody, simply because the publishers
- > fail to inform their customers properly. I think it a matter between
- > the publisher and the customer.
-
- No, it's not, especially since it isn't an isolated occurance. The program
- a publisher releases reflects on the machine it runs on. If a good amount
- of programs won't run on a certain Amigas why bother buying them? What
- does this say to people considering the Amiga as a purchase? The average
- person will NOT blame the publishers for non-working games, they will blame
- the computer.
-
- > People have stated that hardware bashing is slowing down the development
- > of new custom chips. Maybe so, but these days one might expect downwards
- > compatibility within all chip families. Take the 680x0 or the 80x86
- > families for instance. It is expected that new chips in these families
- > are compatible with previous chips (and yes, I agree that the Pentium
- > (80586) is looking like a dinosaur.)
-
- We're talking about custom chips, not CPUs. A CPU is
- just a *little* bit more critical to a computer's operation, isn't it?
- You can't change a CPU's instruction set without problems, but you can
- certainly change a custom chip if the hardware is abstractly represented
- to the programmer. Your analogy works about as well as some of the game
- prgrams we're talking about.
-
- > If C= wants to make new chips
- > which aren't fully compatible with the previous chips, and they want
- > us all to use the OS, when they should release the new machines under
- > a new name (since it is a new machine) and state that it runs KickStart
- > V99.99 (or whatever.) Then the software packages can state that they
- > run on KickStart V99.99, or UNIX, or Windows 3.0, etc.
-
- Of course... but how well would it sell?
-
- --
- "THAT is a DRY turtle. That turtle is NOT moist!"
- Ezra Story, a student at RIT, and
- eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu, his trusty(?) mailing address.
-