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- From: jdickson@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeff Dickson)
- Subject: Re: PPP? You *must* be joking...
- Message-ID: <1993Jan8.184628.15093@jato.jpl.nasa.gov>
- Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
- References: <38363@cbmvax.commodore.com> <43174@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <38412@cbmvax.commodore.com>
- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:46:28 GMT
- Lines: 66
-
- In article <38412@cbmvax.commodore.com> gregm@cbmvax.commodore.com (Greg Miller - Amiga Networking) writes:
- >In article <43174@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ps296au@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Steven Cobb) writes:
- >>In article <38363@cbmvax.commodore.com> kcd@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ken Dyke - Amiga Networking) writes:
- >>>In article <C0F2Hn.86w@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
- >>
- >>(the usual nonsense)
- >>
- >>>
- >>>--
- >>>Kenneth Dyke - Software Engineer Internet: kcd@cbmvax.commodore.com
- >>>Amiga Networking Group BIX: kcd Phone: (215) 344-3014
- >>>"PPP? You *must* be joking..." INCLUDE "stddisclaimer.i"
- >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >>OK, where is our alternative! The CBM ethernet software is now ancient
- >>and was always dilapidated. I asume you are referring to CSLIP as
- >>being superior. I quite agree, but theory doesen't help much in the
- >>real world. When are we _finally_ going to see this stuff.
- >>
- >>Crankily yours,
- >
- > Aw, come on -- that's not fair.
- >
- > (1) The Amiga Network Group is awfully busy. MANY things are in
- > testing and the hands of developers.
- >
- > (2) I suspect what Ken's signature is referencing is PPP in -general-.
- > Take a look at the spec -- it's a wonderful example of what
- > happens when a protocol is designed by committee. While PPP will
- > do just about anything you could possibly want, it's a -real- pain
- > to implement.
- >
- > (3) CSLIP isn't superior to PPP. Like I said above, PPP does everything
- > under the sun -- far more than CSLIP.
- >
- > - Greg
- >
- >
- >>--
- >> \________/\ ______________________ __________________________________
- >>Steven Cobb \ / scobb@ucsd.edu \__/ Graduate School:
- >> \ / It's not a job...
- >> UCSD \/ ision Lab It's an indenture.
- >
- >
- >--
- >Greg Miller "Dad! The heathen is getting away!"
- >Amiga Networking Group
- >gregm@cbmvax.commodore.com
-
- I looked into developing PPP (RFC1134). My hang up was that the RFC
- did not go into detail concerning HDLC upon which PPP is based. Here is the
- revelent section:
-
- "The purpose of this memo is not to document what is already
- standardized in ISO 3309. We assume that the reader is already
- familiar with HDLC, or has access to a copy of [2] or [6]. Instead,
- this paper attempts to give a concise summary and point out specific
- options and features used by PPP."
-
- I wouldn't have thought getting a hold of the ISO documents they cited
- be a problem, but it was. So I gave up. Anyone who wants to volunteer the
- ISO document ISO 3309-1979 and CCITT X.25 LAPB be my guest palease.... I'm
- still interested in pursuing this - it's just that I was overwhelmed by the
- sense of futility the last time round.
-
- Jeff
-