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- From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: Commodity question
- Date: 8 Jan 93 20:28:32 GMT
- Organization: University of Washington
- Lines: 64
- Message-ID: <crystal.726524912@glia>
- References: <38291@cbmvax.commodore.com> <wanderer.03pd@tcsi.appleton.mil.wi.us> <crystal.726437518@glia> <1993Jan7.222820.13563@hubcap.clemson.edu> <38416@cbmvax.commodore.com>
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- Keywords: manuals documentation 2.04
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- In <38416@cbmvax.commodore.com> ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan7.222820.13563@hubcap.clemson.edu> charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
- >>crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
- >>
- >>[Someone 's name deleted here ... sorry]
- >[comments from Rick and Crystal on virtues/failings of _Using the System
- >Software_ manual deleted]
- >My responses to this are covered in a prior response, basically saying that
- >there indeed seem to have been some gaps in the _UtSS_ index.
-
- >>i.e. Someone who was not Crystal wrote:
-
- No, it was me.. :>
-
- >>>I found Enforcer on my HD, and I *know* I didn't put it there, and I couldn't
- >>>find a reference in the 2.04 manual for it, so I got bugged enough to run a
- >>>VIRUS CHECKER on the mysterious thing. It was clean...but *geez* if a program
- >>>is considered important enough to put in with the system software, at least
- >>>DOCUMENT it!
- >>
- >>It's for systems with MMU's (normally 68030's and up). They shoudl have still
- >>supplied *some* sort of docs, though.
-
- >Similarly, my previous response indicated that in general, stuff that is
- >undocumented should be left alone. It's unlikely you'll get a virus on an
-
- If it is undocumented, then it shouldn't even be included. Not everyone who
- buys a computer is programming whiz. Nor do they understand not to play with
- things that are undocumented. If it's high-level developmental stuff, then it
- should not be left out on the table, unattended, where the baby can get into it...
-
- >undocumented should be left alone. It's unlikely you'll get a virus on an
- >original disk from Commodore.
-
- Uh...I didn't KNOW it came from a Commodore disk. All I knew was that I had
- some strange program in my directory with a rather ominous sounding name that
- *I* did not put there. Then I saw it mentioned, and looked in the UtSS Index,
- and didn't find it. Someone else told me that the latest version was on an
- FTP site somewhere. THAT comment right there, said, 'HMMMM....I KNOW I didn't
- get this from an FTP site, so HOW DID IT GET ON MY DISK?' and then checked it
- with the VirusChecker, just incase SOMETHING I got off of FTP decided to
- create a virus file and call itself (ominously) 'Enforcer' just waiting for
- me to try to run it out of curiosity. (which I did not do - BECAUSE I ALWAYS
- RTFM *FIRST* - and there wasn't one in this case :<)
-
- What is a newbie to think? When I got this machine I tried to look up every
- program I found on my drive. (Didn't understand a lot of it, and gave up the
- idea). I roam around FTP sites gathering stuff that could quite conceivably
- have a virus. Heck, I downloaded CHALLENGER just before the word came out
- that there was a virus on a FISH disk! Thankfully I hadn't gotten the chance
- to run it! But at the same time, that 'Enforcer' program could just as easily
- have come from Challenger if I HAD run it. And with no docs to support what
- I knew *I* hadn't put on my disk, what's a newbie to think?
-
- So, why didn't I LOOK on the original system disk? Because there were posts
- saying that Enforcer was on an FTP site, and one saying that it was NOT part
- of the system software. So, if it was commercial, from C=, why would it be
- on an FTP site? Hence, I had to assume it had arrived on my HD by suspicious
- means.
-
- Crystal
- ;>
-
- *sigh*
-