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- Path: sparky!uunet!ceilidh!dnichols
- From: dnichols@d-and-d.com (DoN. Nichols)
- Subject: Re: Ethernet board
- Message-ID: <1993Jan12.033757.6068@ceilidh.d-and-d.com>
- Keywords: 3b1, Ethernet, ungermann Bass
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- Organization: D and D Data, Vienna VA
- References: <1ip0sbINNne7@munnari.OZ.AU>
- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:37:57 GMT
- Lines: 62
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- In article <1ip0sbINNne7@munnari.OZ.AU> muller@munnari.OZ.AU (Paul Muller) writes:
- >I have been offered an Ethernet board for the 3b1 of the Ungermann Bass variety
- ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^
- >without drivers.
-
- Huh! I've never seen one from Ungermann Bass (as far as I know.)
- The Ungerman Bass equipment that we have at work is a Wideband Lan, rather
- than Ethernet. There is a box for the Lan which will let Ethernet ride on
- one of the channels on the Wideband.
-
- I know that Ungerman Bass makes cards for PClones, is it possible
- that the person making the offer heard UNIX-PC, and figured (PClone running
- unix)? If so, the card will essentially be useless to you. If it fits the
- form-factor for a 3B1 card, and is really ethernet, rather than Wideband (I
- don't know who *really* made the ethernet card for the 3B1, so it *could*
- have been Ungermann Bass.)
-
- You need the Wollagong WIN/TCP package to work with the ethernet
- card for the 3B1. It supplies both the libraries and header files for
- compiling other programs to use the net, and the normal complement of tools
- (ftp, rsh (remsh on the 3b1), telnet, rwho, ruptime, etc.)
-
- >What is a reasonable price to pay? I am thinking of offering $50 Aus for it, is
- >that a good price? What euipment/software will I need to connect my machine
- >to an existing network? eg are TCP/IP drivers available, do I need an futher
- >EXPENSIVE cables, etc.
-
- I'm unsure of the current exchange rate between Aus and US dollars
- at present, but $50 US would be a nice price to pay for it, even without the
- software. I have had to pay $400 each for boards with the software package
- (only one came with the manual set).
-
- >I am hoping to play with TCP/IP on a budget, so I am not looking to spend a
- >bundle (but whoever is?).
-
- If you can find a source for the software package for anything
- around $200 (US) or less, you are probably ahead of the game with this
- board, *if* it is the 3B1 ethernet card. The only connector on the card is
- a DB-15 AUI connector. You will need a cable, and a tranciever to go with
- the card, but any one should do. They will probably cost you more than we
- have been discussing above, if you have to purchase them new. For short
- runs, you can use 15-conductor ribbon cable and crimp-on connnectors. For
- longer runs (up to maybe 25 feet) you should have a genuine shielded AUI
- cable. The ethernet cable can go a fairly long distance (as indoors
- distances go). Do you have something to hang at the other end of the
- ethernet cable? If not, then none of this will do you much good. However,
- if you are in a company or a university, and they are willing to assign you
- an IP address, then your 3B1 will hang on the net and work quite well.
-
- I have several 3B1/7300 machines ethernetted to a collection of Sun
- workstations of various vintages, and one Textronix 6130 at home. In
- general the WIN/TCP works fairly well, though if you try to compile certain
- programs, it just won't work. (Ping seems to be everyone's example of one
- that won't work.)
-
- Good Luck
- DoN.
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