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- From: boyd@prl.dec.com (Boyd Roberts)
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- Subject: Re: islands
- Message-ID: <1993Jan10.140323.1335@prl.dec.com>
- Date: 10 Jan 93 14:03:23 GMT
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- In article <C0MKEu.5or@poel.juice.or.jp>, erik@poel.juice.or.jp (Erik M. van der Poel) writes:
- >
- > The way I see it, Plan 9 is itself an island.
-
- I'm not sure at all that Plan 9 _is_ an island; utf and 9P have been
- published, you can actually read all of the documentation and understand
- it (in contract to things like X and the almost unbounded number of RFC's),
- it's more `open' than anything else that goes by the same moniker.
-
- Reminds me of Geoff Collyer's comment [in ;login:] that the [PDP] 11/70 was
- `open' because you could get the documentation, read it and build something.
- It seems that the wheel has turned full circle in that it's again difficult
- to build things because of the intentional (or otherwise) complexity,
- obscurity and the broken set of tools to hand.
-
- And while I'm at it, I think that GNU are as much a part of the problem rather
- than the solution. Yes you can get the source, but it's of no use because
- it has been crippled by comlexity. Look at gcc: a zillion command line
- options when it should probably have _less_ than 5; the compiler should
- just compile a program that adheres to the language spec, no more, no less.
-
- So, what's my plan? Talk utf and 9P and get some connectivity happening.
- TCP/IP access to a public 9P file-server would be a start. I'd almost be
- tempted to `teach' NFS about 9P. Yes, I'm probably that crazy.
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- Boyd Roberts boyd@prl.dec.com
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- ``When the going gets wierd, the weird turn pro...''
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