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- From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
- Subject: Re: Let's develop ISO sorting rules
- Message-ID: <1993Jan9.222040.26009@enea.se>
- Organization: Enea Data AB
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- Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:20:40 GMT
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- Markus Kuhn (mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de) writes:
- >>I believe you. I'm sure that the analogous statement is true for French. But
- >>I'm almost as sure that Swedish readers won't want "a-circle" to be anywhere
- >>near "a". I think your flexibility on this is a language-relative phenomenon.
- >
- >This would be really bad news, could someone from Sweden coment on this?
-
- Just adding my voice to the crowd: if you are talking about a default
- sort order, maybe. If you are talking about a standard to replace all
- existing orders: just forget it!
-
- >My idea is, that there is one latin alphabet, that is known by everyone
- >using a latin script:
- >
- > abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
- >
- >And the following rule may be understood by every user within less then
- >10 seconds:
- >
- > sort latin characters with diacritics (e.g. "a, 'a, ^a, ...) near their
- > pure latin version a.
-
- It may not be a very good solution even for a default sort order. Say
- you have a catalogue of persons. You've read in the paper about Lech
- Walesa and want to see if he is in the catalogue. You find Walde (whoever
- that is) and directly after Walde you see Walters, so you conclude
- that Walesa is not in the catalogue. But he is - after Walters, since
- the name of the Polish president actually is Wal/e,sa, but the papers
- you read always replaces the special Polish characters with what they
- have in store.
-
- A default sort order should probably sort according to the English
- (not Latin!) alphabet and the co-sort look-alikes so that they are
- only significant when nothing else is different.
-
- Of course that applies to Latin-based languages only.
- --
- Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
-