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- From: dar@melb.bull.oz.au (David Rubie)
- Subject: Re: NDIS/Netbios
- Message-ID: <1993Jan12.035023.15539@melb.bull.oz.au>
- Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Australia
- References: <1993Jan8.130337.9901@informix.com> <1993Jan11.160412@roper.mc.ti.com> <1993Jan12.004621.20284@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:50:23 GMT
- Lines: 67
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- In <1993Jan12.004621.20284@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr) writes:
-
- >In article <1993Jan11.160412@roper.mc.ti.com> a722756@roper.mc.ti.com (W. Donald Rolph) writes:
- >>
- >>In article <1993Jan8.130337.9901@informix.com>, christb@infmuc (Christian Barmala) writes:
- >>|> Sorry for that stupid question:
- >>|> Has NDIS something to do with Netbios? Is it the NDIS the low level
- >>|> driver for Netbios?
- >>Probably should be an a FAQ, but I will venture to answer.
- >>
- >>NDIS is a specification for writing DOS based ethernet drivers to attach to
- >>ethernet hardware boards.
-
- [stuff deleted]
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-
- >>
- >>Netbios can run over a variety of protocols, (e.g. TCP/IP, NBP, netbeui(sp?),
- >>xns, and DECNET to name a few). The protocol stack would then be written to
- >>talk to an ethernet card using NDIS, making the protocol stack network card
- >>independent.
-
- >Huh? NetBios can be ENCAPSULATED in different protocols (like TCPIP)
- >but since it works on basically the same layer, what you are saying
- >isn't correct. NetBeui is a flavor of NetBios which will run
- >concurrently with TCP/IP. It is a way to trick NetBios aware programs
- >to use TCP/IP instead. Microsoft is now using TCP/IP as their transport
- >mechanism on LanManager (at least with LanManX for the HP9000).
-
- Nope.
-
- Netbeui is a grungy little protocol stack which is a cut down and faster
- version of NBP. Netbeui has nothing to do with TCP/IP at all. Netbios
- over TCP/IP is covered by an RFC (number forgotten). Tricking netbios aware
- programs is not the way I'd put it at all. Netbios offers a standard API
- set which is protocol stack independent. There is no tricking involved at
- all.
-
- HP Lan Manager / X (and other vendor flavours) use the RFC Netbios which is
- generally described as "netbios over TCP/IP". Microsoft's primary transport
- protocol is now Netbeui. They supply TCP/IP with Lan manager (OS/2
- versions) as a convenience, although you gotta pay
- extra money for the useful utilities. You do get Ping though. Most
- versions of Lan Man/X use TCP/IP because it's so much easier to port than
- writing your own Unix based Netbeui stack. SCO did that though. Poor
- buggers.
-
-
- >>
- >>Hope that helps.
-
- >Hope THIS helps...
- >>
-
- Hope I helped the hopeless and the hopeful who needed help :-)
-
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-
-
- David Rubie
- Systems Engineer
- Bull HN Information Systems
- Canberra, Australia
- dar@melb.bull.oz.au
-
- It wasn't me. I didn't say it!
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