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- From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
- Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
- Subject: Re: reading what you're writing on Suns
- Message-ID: <ukn7no4@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com>
- Date: 8 Jan 93 21:34:38 GMT
- References: <21102@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> <16287@auspex-gw.auspex.com>
- Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Mountain View, CA
- Lines: 32
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- In article <16287@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
- > >Apparently a Sun cannot read the packets that it is writing to
- > >the network. I have two questions regarding this:
- > >
- > > 1) Is this common with most/all workstations (non-Suns)?
- >
- > I've never seen an Ethernet interface that *does* hear its own
- > transmissions, but some may exist. All the Ethernet-interface drivers
- > I've seen will wrap transmitted *broadcast* packets around internally,
- > so that it *looks* as if they receive the packet, but they don't do so
- > for non-broadcast packets.
- >
- > > 2) Is there a patch so the Sun can read it's own packets?
- > ...
-
-
- With 7990 LANCE based hardware, it is impossible to hear your own
- packets with just the hardware, unless your packets are ridiculously
- small. Anything larger than something like 38 bytes cannot be heard.
-
- With SEEQ 8003 and similar based systems, the hardware can in be built
- to hear its own output, but the main vendor I know of that uses 8003's
- and derivatives in some systems (guess which vendor) has chosen to
- implement loopback purely in software.
-
- Doing loopback in software is a good idea with common 4.3BSD and SVR4
- (I think) style code, which do not work well if they cannot hear their
- own broadcasts. You usually want your system to come up even if the
- ethernet cable is unplugged.
-
-
- Vernon Schryver, vjs@sgi.com
-