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- From: leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
- Subject: re: RE: SYSDUMP.DMP File Question...
- Message-ID: <9301102301.AA11729@uu3.psi.com>
- Date: 10 Jan 93 21:48:31 GMT
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- Are there any other side effects for managers that have no page/swap
- files on the boot drive? Is VMS non-paged until a pagefile is
- installed and present?
-
- Not quite. The system must be able to get through startup to the point where
- the first pagefile is installed without requiring the use of a pagefile, but
- keep in mind that a great deal of paging activity goes directly to image
- files: Read-only image sections (all code, for example) will never end up in
- the pagefile.
-
- Theoretically, startup can deadlock if there is not enough physical memory.
- At one time, this was a significant issue, which usually showed up not so much
- when there was no primary pagefile as when SAVEDUMP was set to 1, making a
- large piece of the pagefile inaccessible until an ANALYZE/CRASH could be done.
- Given the amount of main memory on modern systems - many have more main memory
- than many VMS systems of 10 years ago had disk space! - this is very unlikely.
-
- BTW, the same considerations apply to a primary swapfile - though many systems
- these days do entirely without a swapfile, primary or otherwise.
-
- Is the boot drive pagefile faster or better
- for the primary system processes that get created before external
- pagefiles are installed?
-
- No; there's no longer any difference. (At one time, there were things a
- primary pagefile could be used for that secondary pagefiles could not, but
- that's all history now, with the sole exception that even today, only the
- primary pagefile can be used for dumps if no SYSDUMP.DMP exists.)
-
- Just curious...
-
- Yellow or Blue?
- -- Jerry
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