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- From: gleeve@galaxy.dnet
- Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
- Subject: Long standing apparent Backup or XQP problem
- Message-ID: <9301052330.AA21443@relay1.UU.NET>
- Date: 5 Jan 93 23:18:59 GMT
- Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
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- When making up masters for the VMS/L&T sig tapes at the recent
- DECUS symposium, I encountered a problem making a Backup
- saveset which had happened at the prior symposium as well. I thought
- the community might appreciate an alert that this can happen.
-
- What I did:
- I ran Backup on a VAX 6660 to create savesets, on the same disk,
- where the disk had plenty of space (well, it had plenty before
- I started :-) ). The commands were of the form
-
- $ backup/block=4096/trunc [.a*...] [somewhere]a.bck/save
-
- which normally creates a saveset of all the relevant directories.
-
- Doing a BACKUP/LIST of [somewhere]a.bck/save
-
- revealed errors recovered by XOR groups, and errors of lost blocks
- in files within the saveset, EVEN THOUGH there were NO errors reported
- by Backup during creation of the savesets, nor any hardware errors
- (via show error) reported on the device.
-
- If I tried again, I could eventually (within at most 4 tries)
- get a clean saveset. The problem seemed to occur more often if
- other disk accesses (even read accesses!) were going on at the time.
-
- I have not seen this problem on a uniprocessor, and subsequently
- switched to using one on the floor. This is however the second time
- I have seen this on an SMP VAX (it happened in Atlanta too). I suspect
- some XQP bug on an SMP machine, or perhaps some way in which
- Backup can misbehave when the account's AUTH params are set wrong.
-
- (Unfortunately, the account is set up as a courtesy by DEC folks
- and I was not willing to run authorize to look at it, since it is
- after all not my machine, and in any case I lacked the privs to
- modify it legitimately.)
-
- The point of all this is cautionary: at least SOME of the
- time use BACKUP/COMPARE or BACK/LIST on your savesets to ensure
- this is not happening to you.
- If anyone can shed light on the problem beyond this caution,
- please feel welcome. If it happens again I will gather more information
- on the account. Still, the problem didn't occur, with the same
- account, where backup was running on a uniprocessor.
- Glenn
- Everhart@raxco.com
- VMS SIG Tapecopy coordinator
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