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- From: ecf_stbo@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Remember Grimalkin)
- Subject: re: VAX c
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- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:36:00 GMT
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- In article <1hs23kINNnqs@gap.caltech.edu>, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes...
- >Gawd, how I *HATE* UNIX!
-
- But you use C?
-
- This discussion just reinforces my belief that C is an unacceptable language
- because the run time library has to emulate unix, regardless of the OS. I
- have seen C take over as 'this weeks language' and I just don't understand it.
- Why in hell are so many people using C on VMS? Why would you want to hose your
- performance running through 14 levels of emulation attempting to (and often
- failing) make the rtl conform to every little idiosyncrasy of one particular
- system? I mean, is it a management decree based on 'marketing related
- concerns'? Is it for 'portability' (seems like the typical C program depends on
- such exact unix behavior that this portability is just a myth touted by people
- running unix. Christ, look at the contortions the guy who ported XV had to go
- through)?
-
- The latest ante in the game (but one that could be predicted given the way
- things are going) is this abomination called VMS POSIX (I won't even start
- about 'OpenVMS'). It sure would be nice if there was some non-biased attempt at
- environment interoperability, but I guess we're gonna be stuck with 'If you
- can't beat 'em, join 'em'. Now it's getting to the point where it's painful
- NOT to use C (example: multinet networking code and gaddam 'sockets'). I
- suppose it would behoove me to start writing everything in C, but something
- is still making me hold out. It's just the PRINCIPLE of the thing!
-
-
- Tom O'Toole - ecf_stbo@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu - JHUVMS system programmer
- Homewood Computing Facilities, Johns Hopkins University, Balto. Md. 21218
- >Here comes a jet ski.
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