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- From: philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara)
- Subject: Re: NT Destined to Succeed??
- Message-ID: <1993Jan05.213844.24980@microsoft.com>
- Date: 05 Jan 93 21:38:44 GMT
- Organization: Microsoft Corporation
- References: <1993Jan4.111435.685@actrix.gen.nz> <1993Jan04.184825.3260@microsoft.com> <1993Jan5.053023.22120@actrix.gen.nz>
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- In article <1993Jan5.053023.22120@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
- >In article <1993Jan04.184825.3260@microsoft.com> philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:
- >> In article <1993Jan4.111435.685@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
- >> >
- >> Steve, for what it's worth, I believe that Windows NT didn't run
- >> on your machine when you tried it. I will not, though, that you
- >> didn't go through the installation process at all - you swapped in
- >> a hard disk, which could result in the system not being properly
- >> configured for your machine. "Virtually" identical doesn't mean
- >> truly identical.
- >
- >True.....but swapping hard drives between similarly configured PCs with
- >Inductry Standard parts is common practice. OS/2 doesn't mind as long as the
- >video card card and I/O adaptors are the same (IDE, not SCSI, etc)
-
- Did OS/2 do this when it was in beta? Even if it did, is it
- reasonable to assume that this functionality should be present in
- any beta product?
-
-
- >> >and won't even boot up.
- >>
- >> Maybe this was caused by yanking the hard drive out of so many
- >> machines and swapping it into others? All it takes is one good knock
- >> to hose a hard drive.
- >
- >The hard drive is fine. It's just the files that have been corrupted through
- >repeated crashes.
-
- Really? How do you know?
-
-
- >> >If you are going to call me a liar, fine. But I get to say I'm no liar and
- >> >that I don't like you calling me one in a public forum. I don't for a moment
- >> >expect you to be big enough to apologise......but you do owe me one.
- >>
- >> I don't think you're a liar. I do think that your attempts to
- >> generalize your personal experience with Windows NT to sweeping
- >> statements about Windows NT as a whole are FUD, and I've told you
- >> why.
- >
- >Unless the quoting was messed up, it was Yamanari who made the statement i
- >objected to.....not you, Phil. Was it you?
-
- No, it wasn't me. I was just throwing in my two cents on it.
-
-
- >I understand how you feel. You guys have put / are putting / a lot of work
- >into NT. But I am not alone in finding it to be not terribly stable on
- >various hardware.......
-
- Oops - I don't want anyone to get the idea that I'm working on
- Windows NT - I'm not.
-
-
- >I have no doubt that one day NT will be a fine OS.....but my personal
- >experience and that of others i know is that the day is not coming in
- >March...and probably not before August...if then.
-
- But this is based on not a real lot of experience.
-
-
- >The main point of that original post was that MS had a lot of work to do to
- >get NT ready for market and that OS/2 was here now - and ready to work.
-
- True that OS/2 is here now. How well it works I'll leave for
- other posters to discuss, as I'm not running it.
-
-
- >> And so does Windows NT. Steve, try getting the original CD, then
- >> install it properly on your machine and report back. If you're still
- >> having trouble with it, I'm sure that someone in the beta program
- >> will be glad to listen to your bug reports.
- >
- >My boss isn't very sympathetic to the idea of having 16megs in every
- >machine.....or even just mine. I had enough trouble just getting 8megs for
- >OS/2. The 8x1 simm --> 4x4 simm jump is a hurdle i doubt I will get over.
- >
- >Those 4x4 simms are NZ$320 each down here......so the upgrade for NT would be
- >nearly NZ$1500 by the time GST was added to the cost of the RAM. Plus another
- >NZ$1,000 forthe additional disk space.
- >
- >My machine won't see NT, I'm afraid. But OS/2 does the job just great on it,
- >so there is no compelling reason to get NT.
-
- True. I have never said that Windows NT is a panacea - not everyone
- is going to want it, and not everyone is going to need it.
-
-
- >That's not FUD, is it?
-
- Not at all. But saying "Windows NT is not for me" is different
- from saying "Windows NT doesn't run in 8MB."
-
- -Phil
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