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- From: 5692330@mcimail.com (Robert Gammon)
- Subject: Re: DOS 6 Beta Looks for OS/2!!!!!!!!
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- References: <1993Jan1.133731.2312@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> <1993Jan02.025323.15888@microsoft.com> <1993Jan2.024108.2313@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> <1993Jan03.000549.23048@microsoft.com>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:34:35 GMT
-
- In article <1993Jan03.000549.23048@microsoft.com> philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:
-
- >> In article <1993Jan2.024108.2313@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_kupkams@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
- >> >In article <1993Jan02.025323.15888@microsoft.com>, philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:
- >> >> In article <1993Jan1.133731.2312@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_kupkams@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
- >> >>>
- >> >>> All this talk about FUD & Misinformation about OS/2 from Microsoft has
- >> >>>some NEW Merit!
- >> >>>
- >> >>> I Recently talked to a Beta Tester of DOS 6.0. He Runs OS/2 with 2 Hard
- >> >>>Drives, One FAT, One HPFS. He decided to Install the DOS 6.0 Beta on the FAT
- >> >>>Partition, and got a Message saying, and I paraphrase:
- >> >>>
- >> >>>- OS/2 Detected! Due to the size of OS/2 you may wish to delete your OS/2
- >> >>>files before installing DOS 6.0 -
- >> >>
- >> >> Interesting. What is the problem with that? If there was a
- >> >> similar message that said "Autocad detected. Due to the size of
- >> >> Autocad you may wish to delete your Autocad files before installing
- >> >> DOS 6.0", whould that be bad too?
- >> >>
- >> > The Problem is simple. There is no need for such a message. If there
- >> >was insufficient disk space, a simple "Insufficient Disk Space" would be
- >> >enough. Unless of course you wanted to to spread FUD
- >>
- >> Point A: We have no idea what the actual message is. I'll wager
- >> that it _isn't_ what was quote above (in fact, you admit that it's
- >> "paraphrased" _and_ secondhand.). There are several good reasons why
- >> you wouldn't want to run the DOS 6 Beta (and note, it is a beta) and
- >> OS/2 on the same machine.
- >>
- >>
- >> >F-Fear- Fear that Using OS/2 and DOS on the same machine would be dangerous.
- >>
- >> It is. DOS 6 may make your FAT partitions unreadable by
- >> OS/2 or other operating systems.
- >>
- >>
- >> >Uncertainty - Make the User uncertain about using DOS and OS/2 at the same
- >> >time.
- >>
- >> As well they should be. It is a beta product, after all.
- >>
- >>
- >> >Doubt - Make the User Doubt OS/2, after all OS/2 didn't even say that there
- >> >might be a problem, but DOS is so great that it warns a user of
- >> >impending danger.
- >>
- >> This is a bit ludicrous, don't you think?
- >>
- >>
- >> >>>So The next time I hear a Micro$oftie say "IT's IBM spreading FUD not us" The
- >> >>>DOS 6.0 Beta will immediately come to mind! It's Simply BULLS**T!!!!
- >> >>
- >> >> Why? The DOS 6 beta work with OS/2 installed, doesn't it?
- >> >
- >> >
- >> > Yes Why???? Why even have such a message at all????
- >> > ANSWER: FUD
- >>
- >> Answer: There are possible incompatibilities between DOS 6
- >> and OS/2. This is not FUD - it's a simple fact.
- >>
- >>
- >> >>>This is intollerable! All of the Posts claiming "Why punish someone for being
- >> >>>successful?", have no ground in light of this blatent attempt to halt advancement
- >> >>>of technology!!
- >> >>
- >> >> Please explain why a warning message is a "blatent [sic] attempt
- >> >> to halt advancement of technology".
- >> >>
- >> > OS/2 is technologically more advanced than DOS/Windoze. So Try to
- >> >Scare the User ( read FUD above again ) until MS has something as good as OS/2,
- >> >then say "Oh, you don't want that old DOG 6.0a ( 'a' version fixed numerous
- >> >bugs that caused competitors apps not to run, oops. sorry Lotus & Borland )
- >>
- >> Interesting theory. Here's a real question for you: Can
- >> the truth also be FUD?
- >>
- >>
- >> >>>Microsoft is doing what it does best, Trying (Lying) to Users of products of a
- >> >>>competitor!
- >> >>
- >> >> What is the lie?
- >> >
- >> > Get a clue Phil. The above message is an obvious LIE! There was plenty
- >> >of room on the drive where the Beta was being installed. OS/2 wasn't on it!
- >> >That is the LIE!
- >>
- >> Let's assume that the message was exactly as it was quoted. In
- >> this case, the message didn't say that you had insufficient disk
- >> space and it didn't tell you to remove OS/2. It said that OS/2
- >> takes a lot of disk space - this is true.
- >> Does anyone have the _real_ message? I suspect that it says
- >> nothing like what's written above.
- >>
- >> -Phil
- >>
-
- Hmm, Since Phil's address is "MICROSOFT", sounds to me like HE has the BEST
- access of any of us to the EXACT wording of the message. Granted, this DOS 6
- development project is not in his department, but I find it difficult to
- believe that Microsoft is SO LARGE, and SO DISPERSED that with a few phone
- calls he couldn't find the answer within a few hours or a day or two (allowing
- for business trips, meetings, and vacations by various Microsoft employees).
-
- --
- Regards,
- Robert Gammon
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