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- From: jebright@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James R Ebright)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
- Subject: Re: NT Destined to Succeed??
- Message-ID: <1993Jan4.203237.10215@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
- Date: 4 Jan 93 20:32:37 GMT
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- In article <19189@mindlink.bc.ca> Ian_Upright@mindlink.bc.ca (Ian Upright) writes:
- >
- >Why do I now think that OS/2 will definitely dominate the desktops in the
- >future, and why NT won't be the *most* popular platform on PC's in general?
-
- (small deletion)
- >
- >Here's why:
- >
- >Why do so called UNIX OS's (in our terms) fail? Because lack of a user
- >base.. And because the user base is so low, the prices must be higher.
-
- Well, there may be more people using OS/2 than DR-DOS, but it is the
- microSoft folks who have the user base.
-
- (deletion)
- >
- >Windows NT will not be compatable, and will even have worse compatabilities
- >than OS/2, thus driving the NT user base down even more..
- >
-
- The history of software is that significant advances are 'not compatable'
- with old software. Incompatabilities have been the norm and the industry
- has survived.
-
- (Indeed, IBM's mainframe business might be super prospering today if FS
- (Future Systems) had been brought to market in the 70's {FS was an AS400 type
- operating system}. It was not because the salesmen said the customers didn't
- want something incompatable with OS/360. So IBM mgmt opted for gradualism [MVS]
- instead of incompatability.)
-
- >There is a lot of anti-Microsoft love/hate relationships going around with
- >Microsoft. People are starting to see Microsoft as a company that looks
- >out only for itself, and not for it's users.. There is a LOT of
- >anti-windows feelings out there.. Many people hate windows, but only use
- >it because there really wasn't a better alternative.. Now there is..
- >Thus driving the Windows and the NT user base down even more..
- >
-
- Well, in the 60's and much of the 70's IBM was the most hated computer
- vendor in the country. And people like Burroughs made much much much better
- computers that anyone who tried really liked a lot better. But that didn't
- make Burroughs successful.
-
- >There is a lot of OS/2 advocacy out there.. If someone turned all those
- >OS/2 advocacy quotes into bumper stickers, I'm sure they'd sell pretty
- >fast.. Thus driving the NT user base down even more..
- >
-
- And there are a lot of loony f-ball fanatics here at Ohio State, but that
- doesn't make OSU *win* anymore games.
-
- (more stuff deleted)
- >
- >Where's OS/2 headed??? On all our desktops.. :) Thank goodness.. relief
- >from Microsoft at last.. Just think!!! Imagine a popular OS without
- >any Microsoft APPS!!! Doesn't that sound nice?? I wonder if Microsoft
- >will be bankrupt by the end of the 90's? I wonder if Microsoft has started
- >developing OS/2 apps like the said they would.. Hopefully not.. :)
-
- My father was a programmer on an IBM 305 RAMAC; so I have followed the
- industry since the 50's and have noticed the following about predictions:
-
- 1-7 years - fairly accurate - just look at what the smart people are
- doing today and extrapolate.
-
- 8-12 years - right about half the time at best - guess today on what's
- going to work tomorrow.
-
- 13-20 years - right damn little of the time - "Who would want a computer
- in their home?" - author to member of Home Brew Computer Club
-
- Don't underestimate Dave Cutler and the rest of the NT crew. Dave and five
- others extended DEC's life 10 years. He has done well in the past.
-
- But I suspect technical matters will not be paramount in the _short run_.
- They never have been in the past so I don't know why they should be now.
-
- microSoft will give NT a good launch and it will pull into the lead, just like
- Windoze.
-
- OS/2 will stay around. Hay, the Amiga is still here! But will it eventually
- pull ahead? IMHO, no way unless two factors occur.
-
- 1) IBM has to decide to say in the low end computer business.
- (They will never be what they once were, but they can still be
- a lot more successful than microSoft.)
-
- and 2) IBM has to make OS/2 both less costly and more productive than NT.
- (They are playing catch-up!)
-
- BTW, that Scholar's Academic Workstation idea recently kicked around on the
- net recently looks like a good start if anyone in IBM marketing is listening.
- --
- Jim Ebright (james.ebright@osu.edu)
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