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- From: roland@margaret (David A. Braun)
- Subject: Re: DOS 6 Beta Looks for OS/2!!!!!!!!
- Message-ID: <1993Jan4.142644.20443@choate.edu>
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- References: <1993Jan03.000549.23048@microsoft.com>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:26:44 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan03.000549.23048@microsoft.com> philipla@microsoft.com (Phil
- Lafornara) writes:
- > In article <1993Jan2.024108.2313@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_kupkams@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
- writes:
- > >In article <1993Jan02.025323.15888@microsoft.com>, philipla@microsoft.com
- (Phil Lafornara) writes:
- > >> In article <1993Jan1.133731.2312@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>
- z_kupkams@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
- > >>>
- > >>> All this talk about FUD & Misinformation about OS/2 from Microsoft has
- > >>>some NEW Merit!
- > >>>
- > >>> I Recently talked to a Beta Tester of DOS 6.0. He Runs OS/2 with 2 Hard
- > >>>Drives, One FAT, One HPFS. He decided to Install the DOS 6.0 Beta on the
- FAT
- > >>>Partition, and got a Message saying, and I paraphrase:
- > >>>
- > >>>- OS/2 Detected! Due to the size of OS/2 you may wish to delete your OS/2
- > >>>files before installing DOS 6.0 -
- > >>
- > >> Interesting. What is the problem with that? If there was a
- > >> similar message that said "Autocad detected. Due to the size of
- > >> Autocad you may wish to delete your Autocad files before installing
- > >> DOS 6.0", whould that be bad too?
- > >>
- > > The Problem is simple. There is no need for such a message. If there
- > >was insufficient disk space, a simple "Insufficient Disk Space" would be
- > >enough. Unless of course you wanted to to spread FUD
- >
- > Point A: We have no idea what the actual message is. I'll wager
- > that it _isn't_ what was quote above (in fact, you admit that it's
- > "paraphrased" _and_ secondhand.). There are several good reasons why
- > you wouldn't want to run the DOS 6 Beta (and note, it is a beta) and
- > OS/2 on the same machine.
- >
- >
- > >F-Fear- Fear that Using OS/2 and DOS on the same machine would be dangerous.
- >
- > It is. DOS 6 may make your FAT partitions unreadable by
- > OS/2 or other operating systems.
- >
- >
- > >Uncertainty - Make the User uncertain about using DOS and OS/2 at the same
- > >time.
- >
- > As well they should be. It is a beta product, after all.
- >
- >
- > >Doubt - Make the User Doubt OS/2, after all OS/2 didn't even say that there
- > >might be a problem, but DOS is so great that it warns a user of
- > >impending danger.
- >
- > This is a bit ludicrous, don't you think?
- >
- >
- > >>>So The next time I hear a Micro$oftie say "IT's IBM spreading FUD not us"
- The
- > >>>DOS 6.0 Beta will immediately come to mind! It's Simply BULLS**T!!!!
- > >>
- > >> Why? The DOS 6 beta work with OS/2 installed, doesn't it?
- > >
- > >
- > > Yes Why???? Why even have such a message at all????
- > > ANSWER: FUD
- >
- > Answer: There are possible incompatibilities between DOS 6
- > and OS/2. This is not FUD - it's a simple fact.
- >
- >
- > >>>This is intollerable! All of the Posts claiming "Why punish someone for
- being
- > >>>successful?", have no ground in light of this blatent attempt to halt
- advancement
- > >>>of technology!!
- > >>
- > >> Please explain why a warning message is a "blatent [sic] attempt
- > >> to halt advancement of technology".
- > >>
- > > OS/2 is technologically more advanced than DOS/Windoze. So Try to
- > >Scare the User ( read FUD above again ) until MS has something as good as
- OS/2,
- > >then say "Oh, you don't want that old DOG 6.0a ( 'a' version fixed numerous
- > >bugs that caused competitors apps not to run, oops. sorry Lotus & Borland )
- >
- > Interesting theory. Here's a real question for you: Can
- > the truth also be FUD?
- >
- >
- > >>>Microsoft is doing what it does best, Trying (Lying) to Users of products
- of a
- > >>>competitor!
- > >>
- > >> What is the lie?
- > >
- > > Get a clue Phil. The above message is an obvious LIE! There was plenty
- > >of room on the drive where the Beta was being installed. OS/2 wasn't on it!
- > >That is the LIE!
- >
- > Let's assume that the message was exactly as it was quoted. In
- > this case, the message didn't say that you had insufficient disk
- > space and it didn't tell you to remove OS/2. It said that OS/2
- > takes a lot of disk space - this is true.
- > Does anyone have the _real_ message? I suspect that it says
- > nothing like what's written above.
- >
-
- If the real message is anything like what is above, Microsoft had no
- business writing it into the beta... Why would someone in their right mind
- delete their main OS just to beta test another... Hello, Boot Manager. Within
- a week I will be installing the OS/2 2.1 beta on my system and I highly doubt
- that it will ask me to remove any of my other OS's... DOS 5.0 and BSD UNIX. I
- have never before witnessed any program so rude as to ask you to delete another
- when there is plenty of room anyway... This appears to be a hopeless attempt by
- MS to convince amature users of OS/2 to think that it is no longer necessary to
- have it...
-
- <roland>
-
-