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- From: jcb@hood (Jim Becker)
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- Subject: Re: X11 and Windows NT (was: Windows NT Report)
- Message-ID: <9301060303.AA18868@hood.pcx.ncd.com>
- Date: 6 Jan 93 03:03:32 GMT
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- Subject: X11 and Windows NT (was: Windows NT Report)
- From: williams@nssdcs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Williams)
- Sender: usenet@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov (Usenet)
-
- I wrote:
-
- >From article <>, by williams@nssdcs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Williams):
- >
- > How do you mean this? Will they actively try to stop 3rd parties from
- > porting X to NT? I don't think so...
-
- Mark wrote:
-
- In article <> mark@alsvid.une.edu.au (Mark Garrett Internet:) writes:>
- > For various technical reasons due to the way the screen is controlled
- >by NT porting X11 seems out of the question.. It does require MS to do some
- >work to the standard system to allow X11 to become possible..
- >
-
- I've gotten several responses that all say similar things; the screen
- is very special under NT and no X11 server is possible unless MS
- cooperates.
-
- running two windowing systems at once is always tricky. i haven't
- heard any "can't do it's" around here though. we have shown X running
- on NT at trade shows already.
-
- I've not heard any statement from MS with respect to X,
- but given that they are supporting TCP/IP and Posix, it seems to me
- they have at least a token interest in interoperability. Thus,
- providing at least some support for X clients seems to be in their
- interests.
-
- the last i heard they were directing people to talk to NCD, as that's
- part of our main business. they are counting on third parties to
- provide this, as i assume they have their hands full with NT itself.
-
- Consider this: Now that Novell has bought USL, they have an OS (Unix)
- that is comparable to NT in many ways, superior is some, and much much
- more mature. The "native" window system for that OS is X11. For DOS
- boxes connected to Novell/USL servers, Desqview/X suddenly looks
- attractive. (Indeed, I'd not be at all surprised if Novell bought
- Desqview.)
-
- the Desqview technology was initially licensed from GSS. GSS is now
- the NCD-PCX Division. i don't know where that agreement stands now.
- meaning if Novell bought Desqview i don't know what happens with the
- original license.
-
- IBM has said that they will offer X11 support in a future version
- of OS/2. Suddenly, Microsoft is the only player without X11
- support. In my opinion, if they shun X11, they will do so at their
- own peril.
-
- they are counting on 3rd party support for a lot of things, this is
- one of them.
-
- Spoken: James W. Williams Company: Hughes STX
- Internet: williams@nssdcs.gsfc.nasa.gov Phone: +1 301 286-1131
-
- i'm not an official spokesperson at all for this, but wanted to let
- people know that X11 and NT will be getting along one way or the other.
-
- -jim
-
- --
-
- -Jim Becker / jcb@pcx.ncd.com / Network Computing Devices, Inc. (NCD)
-