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- From: tmcwill@iat.holonet.net (Thomas McWilliams)
- Subject: Re: 386 BSD
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- Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 04:24:36 GMT
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- Tuomas J Lukka writes on 06-01-92:
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- > No, not yet. They're in the works, by a mailing list on ref.tfs.com,
- > 386bsd-sharedlibs. The implementation is going to be rather high-tech
- > (non-kludged). The current linux shared libraries do their job but
-
- Don't you think that BSD on a 386 processor is inherently a kludge? Do
- you really think that the 386 is capable of doing justice to all of the
- theoretical considerations which define what might be called BSD proper?
- Worrying about the theoretical purity of shared libs in 386bsd seems
- akin to fretting over whether the fuzzy dice in your Chevy Vega are
- fabricated from carbon composites. The moment it was decided to implement
- BSD on the Intel architecture, "high-tech" went out the window. Perhaps
- from the standpoint of a purist, BSD on the 386 is better termed an
- emulation of BSD.
-
- > are very difficult to generate, have to have fixed addresses in the
- > address space etc.
-
- I have heard this sour-grapes attitude from the 386bsd camp before. It
- reminds me of someone I know who hasn't had a girlfriend in many years.
- The reason? He claims no woman meets his high standards of beauty. Well,
- it's his loss. On the apple tree there are many apples that might not
- appear so rosy, but you taste them, they are just as sweet. The best of
- theories may dissolve under the golden axioms of successful practice.
-
- We have had enough theory: Mach, BSD, Minix, Amoeba, etc. etc. Linus
- Torvalds did not give us magazine articles, dissertations, and theory.
- Linus gave the 386 user a working advanced operating system. Others
- have given us libraries full of tomes, monographs, conference
- proceedings, and theoretical proposals. But Linus gave us a working
- operating system. And he understood the 386 processor. He examined
- the marble and chiseled *with* the grain--Linux is well matched to the
- rock it runs upon. Its design was not compromised by religious
- considerations. The efficient performance of Linux bears this out.
-
- > One good thing about 386BSD: it's newsgroup has a LOT less FAQ's asked.
-
- Sometimes there are benefits to a smaller user base. This is
- one of them.
-
- Thomas (tmcwill@gcr.com)
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- But there could be no Richard Stallman, gcc, emacs, etc. There
- could be no Linus Torvalds and Linux. And we wouldn't be aware
- of the necessity of their existence. Once they appear, they
- shine like the stars. --- Wen Chun Ni
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