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- From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
- Subject: Re: It's installed, now what? (was Re: A flight of marketing fancy)
- Message-ID: <1993Jan8.215548.12496@athena.mit.edu>
- Sender: daemon@athena.mit.edu (Mr Background)
- Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
- Organization: The Internet
- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:55:48 GMT
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- From: richb@jti.com (Richard Braun)
- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:24:14 GMT
-
- >But first, there is a huge crowd of able bodied and capable unix
- >literate users that Linux will appeal to, and they are the primary
- >target. Why? Because they are actually capable of contributing to
- >the improvement of the system. So you can almost think of this
- >as a recruitment drive.
-
- I think this approach is limiting. It has led to such monumental
- efforts as MIT Project Athena which have produced far fewer spinoffs
- than were originally intended. (How many people here know that X
- Window is *not* an Athena spinoff? Or that the Athena environment
- still runs in exactly one place--the MIT campus?) What ends up
- happening is you have a hacker's system written by hackers for other
- hackers, and since the lusers who rely on primitive software like MS
- Word and Excel don't matter anyway, the system never strives toward a
- goal behind hackerdom.
-
- Actually, the approach taken by Project Athena and Linux are quite
- different. Project Athena was written in exactly one place: at MIT.
- Linux is being developed all over the world. The goals of Project
- Athena was did not include taking over the world (although that would
- have been nice), and so the fact that there weren't a lot of spinoffs
- isn't that important. I should mention, though, that the Athena
- environment has been exported to other sites; it is not true that it is
- only running at MIT. You can buy it from DEC as "DECathena", and there
- have been a couple of other sites which have picked up the Athena
- distribution and set it up on their own. Granted, not a lot, but there
- are some.
-
- Anyway, I digress. I also think it is misleading for people to say that
- Linux has "this target audience", or "that target audience". Peter's
- SLS distribution may have a certain well defined audience, but different
- people will have different viewpoints on this issue. My viewpoint (as
- an admitted hacker) is that I don't particularily care whether or not
- Linux ever supplants MS-DOS or OS/2. I'm not an ideologue like some of
- the people at the FSF are. So if Linux is only used by just the
- hackers, that's O.K. (at least for me). There are an awful lot of
- hackers out there, and as long as we can get useful work done on Linux,
- and as long as we can compile freely available programs which work
- POSIX, a lot of people will be quite happy.
-
- - Ted
-