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- From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent,comp.os.linux
- Subject: Re: Linux v. Coherent: Comments
- Message-ID: <9301114262@drktowr.chi.il.us>
- Date: 12 Jan 93 13:53:42 GMT
- References: <930109484@ritz.mordor.com>
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- Christopher Mauritz (ritz@ritz.mordor.com) wrote:
- : Louis Giliberto (magus@drktowr.chi.il.us) wrote:
-
- : Not to take anything away from the efforts of Harry and Udo, but you cannot
- : make use of this driver (for now) unless you purchase the device driver kit.
- : Having "spoken" to Harry, it sounds like a really nifty thing to have though.
- : Unfortunately, the vast majority of us don't have the DDK so we're stuck.
-
- True. But most commercial unix systems require you to buy even just the
- compiler seperate. The device driver stuff usually comes with the development
- platform anyhow. Of course, you can use pre-compiled vendor device drivers
- and re-link the kernel without the kits (on commercial Unix that is).
-
- However, I think MWC did the right thing by making the DDK seperate for one
- reason: no hardware companies supply drivers for Coherent (that I know of).
- So being able to relink the kernel is kind of pointless right now. When
- the loadable drivers are finished, it won't be any problem, so in a few
- months it should be at that level I would think.
-
-
- : Where is it? The GCC port has been in the "real soon now" stage for quite
- : some time. Having the Gnu compiler around would certainly make porting
- : all those great gnu tools less of a chore, no?
-
- I have mine on back order and MWC said the end of Jan. hopefully. So probably
- by the middle of Feb :)
-
- : BTW, I am finally going to break down and learn C (fortran just wasn't
- : cutting it for me...hehe). I would like to learn on the GCC compiler.
- : CAn someone recommend a good book for teaching yourself C?
-
- The _C programming language_ by Kernighan and Ritchie is good if you know
- pascal or have been using structured fortran (i.e., it has while, repeat,
- etc.). I would start with this first, then move to C++ (a lot of people
- would argue you should learn C++ straight off, but...). For C++,
- I recommend _C++ Primer_ by Stanley B. Lippman. Both kind of assume you
- know pascal, structured basic (QuickBasic is fine), or some other language
- like that.
-
- When looking for a book, so you don't confuse yourself, you should know this:
- the C compiler that comes with Coh is what's known as "K&R C" (Kernighan &
- Ritchie the authors) or "Classic C". It is based on the original C. GCC
- compiles what is known as "ANSI C" which is standardized C. If you know one,
- you can pick up the other in a few days, but don't confuse yourself. stick
- with learning one, and then pick up the other. The K&R book you can get for
- either ANSI or K&R C, but the K&R edition is a little harder to find.
-
- C++ is pretty standardized by version, and it is based loosely on ANSI C
- (not K&R C).
-
-
- : I am anxiously awaiting the networking abilities. I would love to
- : be able to connect to my feed site using a slip connection on a
- : v.32bis modem. It wouldn't be a screaming connection, but it would
- : make uucp look like a real crawler. It would definitely be worth
- : the $100-200 investment for a generic ethernet card.
-
- For slip you don't need an ethernet card. Just get the ka9q softwre package.
- SLIP is basically TCP/IP over a modem. You could have it today if
- you wanted! it's on raven.alaska.edu and mwcbbs. I guess most of
- the things like FTP and such work, but I'm not sure. I was going to
- hook it up using a null-modem cable to my DOS PC, but never got a chance
- to play with it.
-
- I hope that helps!
-
- -Louis
-
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